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Old 05-22-2015, 12:54 PM   #1
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I don't care about numbers, unless we are talking wins...and Alex Smith helped this franchise turn things around and become a winner.

He's not perfect, but he is an unquestioned winner.
I'd credit almost the entire turnaround in w/l record to the other side of the ball. Although I suppose playing not to lose on offense has played its part.
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Old 05-22-2015, 01:01 PM   #2
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I'd credit almost the entire turnaround in w/l record to the other side of the ball. Although I suppose playing not to lose on offense has played its part.
I'd say his style of play greatly helps the defense.

He extends drives and keeps the defense on the sideline resting and making adjustments. That let Sutton "dial it up" and kept guys fresh late in games.

I expect that to be even more prevalent as the weapons on offense improve, Alex masters the playbook and Andy Reid learns how best to utilize the talent we have.
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Old 05-22-2015, 04:49 PM   #3
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I'd say his style of play greatly helps the defense.

He extends drives and keeps the defense on the sideline resting and making adjustments. That let Sutton "dial it up" and kept guys fresh late in games.

I expect that to be even more prevalent as the weapons on offense improve, Alex masters the playbook and Andy Reid learns how best to utilize the talent we have.
How does a QB who is historically terrible on third down "Extend drives," exactly?
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Old 05-22-2015, 07:46 PM   #4
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How does a QB who is historically terrible on third down "Extend drives," exactly?
Top ten is "historically terrible"

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http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/l...e=NFL&rank=098

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7177/situational/

The guy has his faults and I will join you in listing them, but atleast pick the right ones... he's top 10 on 3rd down.
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Old 05-22-2015, 08:12 PM   #5
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The guy has his faults and I will join you in listing them, but atleast pick the right ones... he's top 10 on 3rd down.

I don't care about his QB rating on third down. I care about his team's 3rd down conversion rate. It was bad in San Francisco, even in 11 and 12, and bad in 13.

They improved a lot last year, and I hope he continues to reverse the trend. But I see a lot of supporters says he consistently moves the chains, when really he just milks the clock and isn't great at keeping his team on the field on third down over the course of his career.
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49ers rate in 2011 was team winning and Harbaugh seemed fine with 'a FG or punt is fine, defense won't give up any points'

70 runs on 3rd down only 19 for a First Down.

For example.

20 first down passes the entire season in the 4th quarter.

KC has been over 40 the past 2 seasons.


And again it goes back to false expectations of Smith.
How good should Smith of been on 3rd down pass conversions considering he is not a great QB and the Pass Catching and Pass Blocking crews around him have been average at best.


List of teams KC outscored per possession last season

San Diego Chargers
New York Giants
Houston Texans
Cincinnati Bengals
Carolina Panthers
Minnesota Vikings
Detroit Lions
Chicago Bears
Buffalo Bills
St. Louis Rams
San Francisco 49ers
Arizona Cardinals
Washington Redskins
Cleveland Browns
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
New York Jets
Tennessee Titans
Jacksonville Jaguars
Oakland Raiders

Potential improvements upfront and outside and it's wise to think this is a top 10 offense. We'll see if the additions fit in as hoped and stay in as you always have to hope with injuries always a factor.
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49ers rate in 2011 was team winning and Harbaugh seemed fine with 'a FG or punt is fine, defense won't give up any points'



70 runs on 3rd down only 19 for a First Down.



For example.



20 first down passes the entire season in the 4th quarter.



KC has been over 40 the past 2 seasons.





And again it goes back to false expectations of Smith.

How good should Smith of been on 3rd down pass conversions considering he is not a great QB and the Pass Catching and Pass Blocking crews around him have been average at best.





List of teams KC outscored per possession last season



San Diego Chargers

New York Giants

Houston Texans

Cincinnati Bengals

Carolina Panthers

Minnesota Vikings

Detroit Lions

Chicago Bears

Buffalo Bills

St. Louis Rams

San Francisco 49ers

Arizona Cardinals

Washington Redskins

Cleveland Browns

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

New York Jets

Tennessee Titans

Jacksonville Jaguars

Oakland Raiders



Potential improvements upfront and outside and it's wise to think this is a top 10 offense. We'll see if the additions fit in as hoped and stay in as you always have to hope with injuries always a factor.

Every team you listed has a shit offense.
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