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Old 07-15-2009, 11:56 AM   Topic Starter
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Rivers pwned by high school QB

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Old 07-15-2009, 11:58 AM   #2
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Old 07-15-2009, 12:03 PM   #3
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looks like typical Rivers passes-high, low all over the place-he is soo over rated.
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Old 07-15-2009, 12:06 PM   #4
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looks like typical Rivers passes-high, low all over the place-he is soo over rated.
ROLF

2008 Stats

312/478 (65.3%) / 4009 Yards / 34 TD / 11 INT / 105.5 Rating

Career

890/1428 (62.3%) / 10697 Yards / 78 TD / 36 INT / 92.9 Rating

Yeah, Overrated.

Not to mention his 36-18 Career Record (incl playoffs)
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Old 07-15-2009, 12:21 PM   #5
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ROLF

2008 Stats

312/478 (65.3%) / 4009 Yards / 34 TD / 11 INT / 105.5 Rating

Career

890/1428 (62.3%) / 10697 Yards / 78 TD / 36 INT / 92.9 Rating

Yeah, Overrated.

Not to mention his 36-18 Career Record (incl playoffs)
Rivers has been THE Starter for 3 seasons (he had 2 game starts each in 2004 and 2005 with really nothing productive).

Based on the 3 full seasons though (2006, 2007, 2008), the Chargers are 33-15 in the regular season and 3-3 in the playoffs.

In 2008, the Chargers had just over 1700 yds rushing as a team with 13 TDs... Rivers was forced to make the most passing attempts so far in his career and he did well, topping 4k yards and more than 30 TDs for the first time.

That being said... the team was 8-8.

In 2006 and 2007, the Chargers won 25 games (14 & 11 win seasons) and lost 7.

In those years, LT alone accounted for 1800 and 1400 yard rushing efforts with another 508 and 475 yards receiving. So, 2300 and nearly 1900 combined yards from just LT in those 14 and 11 win seasons.

Let's not forget that in each of those seasons, when LT was going berzerk, they had an additional 700 yards rushing from other players!

So, sure... Rivers played outstanding in 2008 when they needed him to carry the load offensively. But, let's not call him Peyton Manning just yet.
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Old 07-15-2009, 12:23 PM   #6
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Rivers has been THE Starter for 3 seasons (he had 2 game starts each in 2004 and 2005 with really nothing productive).

Based on the 3 full seasons though (2006, 2007, 2008), the Chargers are 33-15 in the regular season and 3-3 in the playoffs.

In 2008, the Chargers had just over 1700 yds rushing as a team with 13 TDs... Rivers was forced to make the most passing attempts so far in his career and he did well, topping 4k yards and more than 30 TDs for the first time.

That being said... the team was 8-8.

In 2006 and 2007, the Chargers won 25 games (14 & 11 win seasons) and lost 7.

In those years, LT alone accounted for 1800 and 1400 yard rushing efforts with another 508 and 475 yards receiving. So, 2300 and nearly 1900 combined yards from just LT in those 14 and 11 win seasons.

Let's not forget that in each of those seasons, when LT was going berzerk, they had an additional 700 yards rushing from other players!

So, sure... Rivers played outstanding in 2008 when they needed him to carry the load offensively. But, let's not call him Peyton Manning just yet.
I wasn't calling him Peyton Manning. I was just saying that he's not overrated, like Halfcan said. If anything, his 2008 numbers proved that.
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Old 07-15-2009, 12:26 PM   #7
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I wasn't calling him Peyton Manning. I was just saying that he's not overrated, like Halfcan said. If anything, his 2008 numbers proved that.
Hes not overrated, Just a jealous fan trying to act cool... Rivers is better than anything the Chiefs have trotted out other than Green and Montana since 1980...
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Old 07-15-2009, 12:29 PM   #8
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I wasn't calling him Peyton Manning. I was just saying that he's not overrated, like Halfcan said. If anything, his 2008 numbers proved that.
I hear ya... and this is the beauty of sports debates. Some of your commentary has made it appear that SD's success has been thanks to Rivers. My point is that they've had amazing production from the RBs, specifically LT and the defense has been very good... it's not quite all because of Rivers.

His TD/INT ration in 2006 & 2007 was 22/9 and 21/15 ... part of that is they system they ran, but he did explode in 2008 when they couldn't lean on LT and the RBs.

It will be interesting to see what happens in 2009.
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Old 07-15-2009, 12:30 PM   #9
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Rivers has been THE Starter for 3 seasons (he had 2 game starts each in 2004 and 2005 with really nothing productive).

Based on the 3 full seasons though (2006, 2007, 2008), the Chargers are 33-15 in the regular season and 3-3 in the playoffs.

In 2008, the Chargers had just over 1700 yds rushing as a team with 13 TDs... Rivers was forced to make the most passing attempts so far in his career and he did well, topping 4k yards and more than 30 TDs for the first time.

That being said... the team was 8-8.

In 2006 and 2007, the Chargers won 25 games (14 & 11 win seasons) and lost 7.

In those years, LT alone accounted for 1800 and 1400 yard rushing efforts with another 508 and 475 yards receiving. So, 2300 and nearly 1900 combined yards from just LT in those 14 and 11 win seasons.

Let's not forget that in each of those seasons, when LT was going berzerk, they had an additional 700 yards rushing from other players!

So, sure... Rivers played outstanding in 2008 when they needed him to carry the load offensively. But, let's not call him Peyton Manning just yet.
Stats are not the end all be all when it comes to QB play, and Rivers is emerging as a tough, gritty leader for that team.

I wouldn't take him before Peyton Manning..........yet.
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looks like typical Rivers passes-high, low all over the place-he is soo over rated.
Coming from the guy who thinks Favre is the greatest QB ever.

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Old 07-15-2009, 12:21 PM   #11
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Coming from the guy who thinks Favre is the greatest QB ever.

Rivers has a better playoff record than the Chiefs do as a franchise in the last 25 years...
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Old 07-15-2009, 12:21 PM   #12
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I'll continue my homerism.

Hes 3 for 3 in Division Championships

I'm pretty sure hes the only QB ever to lead a 4-8 team into the playoffs.

He has a 3-3 Playoff Record and if it wasn't for Marlon Mcree, who knows what it would be.
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Rivers has a better playoff record than the Chiefs do as a franchise in the last 25 years...
Yep it is ALL Rivers-SD did not have a nasty D? Oh and one of the best RB's of All time??

I don't recall Cry me a Rivers putting the whole team on his shoulders and willing them to win, but I DO recall all the finger pointing after they lost.
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soon as Rivers holds EVERY record then I will give him some props. Half his passes are dump offs to LT , not to mention Gates catches tons of his wobblers. He is a system QB and has had great protection and a incredible running game to keep the D off him.

He is one step up from Leaf talent wise-but just as big of a pussy.
Here are some other System QBs: Joe Montana, Steve Young, Tom Brady

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Yep it is ALL Rivers-SD did not have a nasty D? Oh and one of the best RB's of All time??

I don't recall Cry me a Rivers putting the whole team on his shoulders and willing them to win, but I DO recall all the finger pointing after they lost.
When did he point fingers, and at whom?
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