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Old 04-18-2013, 11:01 PM  
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Albert/Joeckel perspective
How would you feel if the Chiefs had the #2 overall pick and packaged it and Albert for Joeckel? Because that's what the Chiefs are on the brink of doing.

#1 pick = 3000 points
#54 pick = 360 points

difference is 2640 points

#2 pick is worth 2600 points

Chiefs are going to invest 3000 - 360 = 2640 points to replace Albert with Joeckel. It could be a good deal for the Chiefs if 1) Albert is out of the league in two years, 2) Jockel is a HOFer and 3) the alternatives (like Geno) don't have very good careers.
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Old 04-19-2013, 04:53 PM   #181
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It was back in February. Off the top of my head Texas, A&M and a few others.

Who ****ing cares? Don't act like I'M the guy that's made the decision to pass on him.
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Old 04-19-2013, 04:56 PM   #182
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Passing on Geno is an absolute embarrasing move by the team. Same shit, different year. I'd still like someone to point out a "legit" reason for not drafting him.
It doesn't even have to be Geno.

Amazing how these "scouts" went from Barkley being a 1st overall talent to being a scrub in a matter of a year.

It's just comical that anyone puts any stock into what guys like Kiper (I'll see you at Mike Williams' HOF induction) and Todd McShay think.
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Old 04-19-2013, 04:58 PM   #183
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Who said it was "okay"?

That said, I do believe that most people on Chiefsplanet tend to overvalue draft picks. If you look at the history of the Chiefs second round picks over the past 20 years, you're looking at a virtual wasteland.
Because the organization has been run by dipshits?

Successful teams pull ****ing gems from the late rounds, we can't even get it right in the 2nd, where there's some R1 talent left over.

Carl/Pioli ****ups aren't a reason to give away valuable picks.
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Old 04-19-2013, 04:58 PM   #184
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It was back in February. Off the top of my head Texas, A&M and a few others.

Who ****ing cares? Don't act like I'M the guy that's made the decision to pass on him.
You are dead set against drafting him. if you had watched at least six games I would think you would know which ones...
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Old 04-19-2013, 04:58 PM   #185
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If you had to put a "bust rate" on Geno Smith, what would it be? I'm fine with people who don't think he'll be a good NFL QB, but the potential for Geno to really succeed in the league HAS to be acknowledged. There's a reason why he's the #1 QB over Barkley and friends.
No idea. It depends on where he goes and what he's asked to do.

I think the reason he's rated higher is because the other QB's need a shit ton more development. But I also think it's possible that a few of those guys have higher ceilings, especially Bray.

Although reports on anxiety issues would worry me about him.
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Old 04-19-2013, 05:00 PM   #186
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Because the organization has been run by dipshits?

Successful teams pull ****ing gems from the late rounds, we can't even get it right in the 2nd, where there's some R1 talent left over.

Carl/***** ****ups aren't a reason to give away valuable picks.
I've stated repeatedly that I would LOVE for the Chiefs to grab Nassib, Bray, Barkley - whomever - in the second or third round and develop him.

But the Geno Mafia twists my words into "not wanting a QB". It's ****ing bullshit.
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Old 04-19-2013, 05:00 PM   #187
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It doesn't even have to be Geno.

Amazing how these "scouts" went from Barkley being a 1st overall talent to being a scrub in a matter of a year.

It's just comical that anyone puts any stock into what guys like Kiper (I'll see you at Mike Williams' HOF induction) and Todd McShay think.
That's true. Hell, I wouldn't mind a bit if they had taken Barkley at one. I like his game.
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I don't like the guy at 1.1, especially after they traded for Alex Smith.

Deal with it and please, shut the **** about it, okay?
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No idea. It depends on where he goes and what he's asked to do.

I think the reason he's rated higher is because the other QB's need a shit ton more development. But I also think it's possible that a few of those guys have higher ceilings, especially Bray.

Although reports on anxiety issues would worry me about him.
what about bray has made you think he has a higher ceiling?


You watch him play?

Listen to his interviews?
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That's true. Hell, I wouldn't mind a bit if they had taken Barkley at one. I like his game.
Barkley was completely screwed over by Lane Kiffin, although I would have some concern about his arm strength after the injury.
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what about bray has made you think he has a higher ceiling?


You watch him play?

Listen to his interviews?
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Arm strength, size, age.
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I don't like the guy at 1.1, especially after they traded for Alex Smith.

Deal with it and please, shut the **** about it, okay?
No. It's not ok.

why is it ok for you to keep saying shit that you are just repeating from the talking heads?

Maybe you should shut the **** up already dude.
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Arm strength, size, age.
And he's a ****ing drooling mongoloid. And thinks it's cool to tear other people's shit up.

Yeah that's the guy I want to draft
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No idea. It depends on where he goes and what he's asked to do.

I think the reason he's rated higher is because the other QB's need a shit ton more development. But I also think it's possible that a few of those guys have higher ceilings, especially Bray.

Although reports on anxiety issues would worry me about him.
Let's say it's the Chiefs that he goes to (because a boy can still dream). Would you put the bust rate as high as 70?

For me, I think Geno's bust rate would be highest if he went to a team like the Jets or Jaguars. I would even go as high as 60% if he got drafted by those teams. I think a team like Buffalo or Arizona might be okay for him. Under 50%

If it were KC, I'd put that rate at under 40%. It's not what Andrew Luck had, but tough shit. If a team is as unlucky as we are, that's a sign that the team better learn how to GET lucky. And that may mean creating our own luck.
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No. It's not ok.

why is it ok for you to keep saying shit that you are just repeating from the talking heads?

Maybe you should shut the **** up already dude.
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Repeating from which talking heads? What the **** is wrong with you?

When have I EVER repeated something from a media source?

And I'm not going to ask again nicely, ****head. Shut the **** about it. It's MY opinion, cockbreath.

I'm not flipping YOU shit because I disagree with YOU, am I? I can, mother****er.
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