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Old 03-08-2015, 12:51 AM  
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PFT: Unhappy with Chiefs, Houston hopes to attract an offer sheet

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It’s highly unusual for franchise players to be signed to offer sheets, because teams regard any unused first-round picks as potential Hall of Fame players. Chiefs linebacker Justin Houston could become the exception, for various reasons.

First, he enters the process after completing a 22-sack season. No player with that kind of performance has been available on the heels of it, with or without compensation.

Second, he’s motivated to move on. Per multiple sources, Houston is very upset with the Chiefs. It’s believed that he’ll actively solicit an offer sheet in the hopes the Chiefs won’t match it.
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Old 03-08-2015, 12:57 AM   #2
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Fantastic. Could be posturing though
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Old 03-08-2015, 01:00 AM   #3
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Old 03-08-2015, 01:00 AM   #4
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How many players have we managed to piss off over the years? Maybe it's just because you don't hear as much about a team you're not a fan of but it seems like a number of players have felt offended by the Chiefs' offer to them or their overall treatment by the club.

Chance that we end up losing both Houston and Hudson within a year from now? I'm putting the over/under at 75%.
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Old 03-08-2015, 01:03 AM   #5
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I'm not going to piss on KC right now because Houston did hold out when he was drafted in round 3. He's like Revis. First chance he can hold out he will.
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Old 03-08-2015, 01:04 AM   #6
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No way to tell if this is simply posturing or if either side is being unreasonable.
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Old 03-08-2015, 01:04 AM   #7
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There isn't a single team in the NFL that will give up two first round picks and $15 million plus per year for Justin Houston.

He has the dumbest agent in all of sports.
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Old 03-08-2015, 01:06 AM   #8
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Prediction:

1) First, people will say this is just smoke/posturing from his people
2) Once it becomes clear that it isn't just posturing, people will move on to saying he isn't worth the price
3) Whatever team Houston signs with will dole out a huge signing bonus and spread the contract out long enough to manipulate the salary cap.
4) During training camp, Dee Ford and whatever slapdick FA is signed to take Houston's snaps/role will be viewed as a sure-fire breakout star who will match Houston's production (since he's never getting 20 sacks again, anyway).
5) And, eventually, it will be obvious that not signing him was a huge deal, but the Chiefs homers/apologists will still defend it as the right move, for various (bullshit) reasons.

Sure am glad the Chiefs locked up Alex Smith instead of Houston. I mean, when you have the choice between locking up a completely mediocre player at an impact position and a completely elite player at an impact position, the choice is easy, right?
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Old 03-08-2015, 01:08 AM   #9
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Prediction:

1) First, people will say this is just smoke/posturing from his people
2) Once it becomes clear that it isn't just posturing, people will move on to saying he isn't worth the price
3) Whatever team Houston signs with will dole out a huge signing bonus and spread the contract out long enough to manipulate the salary cap.
4) During training camp, Dee Ford and whatever slapdick FA is signed to take Houston's snaps/role will be viewed as a sure-fire breakout star who will match Houston's production (since he's never getting 20 sacks again, anyway).
5) And, eventually, it will be obvious that not signing him was a huge deal, but the Chiefs homers/apologists will still defend it as the right move, for various (bullshit) reasons.

Sure am glad the Chiefs locked up Alex Smith instead of Houston. I mean, when you have the choice between locking up a completely mediocre player at an impact position and a completely elite player at an impact position, the choice is easy, right?
When you sat in on the Chiefs negotiations with Houston, did the Chiefs negotiatiors just get up and tell Houston to go **** himself, or did they all get up and piss on the table first?
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Prediction:

1) First, people will say this is just smoke/posturing from his people
2) Once it becomes clear that it isn't just posturing, people will move on to saying he isn't worth the price
3) Whatever team Houston signs with will dole out a huge signing bonus and spread the contract out long enough to manipulate the salary cap.
4) During training camp, Dee Ford and whatever slapdick FA is signed to take Houston's snaps/role will be viewed as a sure-fire breakout star who will match Houston's production (since he's never getting 20 sacks again, anyway).
5) And, eventually, it will be obvious that not signing him was a huge deal, but the Chiefs homers/apologists will still defend it as the right move, for various (bullshit) reasons.

Sure am glad the Chiefs locked up Alex Smith instead of Houston. I mean, when you have the choice between locking up a completely mediocre player at an impact position and a completely elite player at an impact position, the choice is easy, right?
Houston will never again in his career approach 20+ sacks in a season.

Houston will likely be the guy he was before his breakout season and have anywhere from 9-12 sacks from here on out.

Any team that gives up two first rounders and 15 million + is foolish.
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Old 03-08-2015, 01:10 AM   #11
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I already expect the worst out of every situation with the Chiefs.
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Old 03-08-2015, 01:12 AM   #12
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There isn't a single team in the NFL that will give up two first round picks and $15 million plus per year for Justin Houston.

He has the dumbest agent in all of sports.
Still has the fallback of just signing the franchise tender though. Lot of dumb teams out there but they tend to be the ones drafting higher that wouldn't give up the picks.
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I already expect the worst out of every situation with the Chiefs.
Do your ****ing worst.
The best situation, IMO, is some other team forks over two first round choices to the Chiefs and they use those choices on a Franchise QB.
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The best situation, IMO, is some other team forks over two first round choices to the Chiefs and they use those choices on a Franchise QB.
I'm kind of hoping for this scenario too.
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Still has the fallback of just signing the franchise tender though. Lot of dumb teams out there but they tend to be the ones drafting higher that wouldn't give up the picks.
And if he signs the tender and doesn't show until Week 10, how many teams will be motivated to give him a huge contract in 2016 when he played less than half a season and is a year older?

Despite what the internet wants people to believe, Houston is at a disadvantage in this situation.
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