Chiefs The QB Reid chooses to lead the Chiefs - Page 13

O.city · 01-05-2013, 02:13 PM

No QB in this draft is Manning or Luck type prospect, so you absolutely don't draft one that isn't that level first overall.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-05-2013, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

No QB in this draft is Manning or Luck type prospect, so you absolutely don't draft one that isn't that level first overall.

Not sure if serious. If you are, who DO you draft when there aren't any for sure number 1 picks?

O.city · 01-05-2013, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Not sure if serious. If you are, who DO you draft when there aren't any for sure number 1 picks?

No, I was being sarcastic.

**cdcox** · 01-05-2013, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

No, I was being sarcastic.

So before, our pick was too late to take a QB but now its too early to take a QB. Gotcha.

O.city · 01-05-2013, 02:17 PM

Nassib had a shitty game against one of the worst defenses in college football in his bowl game. No thanks.

EagleRob · 01-05-2013, 03:47 PM

Hi All,

Eagles fan here but also root for the Chiefs as I have family in the area. Honestly, I believe Andy's failures recently were a result of the ownership and non-football management layers in the Eagles making moves they believe were a final push for a championship then letting Reid take the fall, along with current Browns GM Joe Banner. Reid and new Eagles GM Howie Roseman didnt see eye to eye on personnel so word is, Reid was resigning if the team didn't terminate his contract.

You all are getting a fantastic human being to run your team. He accepts responsibility for failures, though sometimes to a fault, installs a winning atmosphere from Day 1, and turned Philly into a desirable destination for draftees and free agents. He builds around a franchise QB that he drafts, preferring QBs that are tall, strong-armed, and make good decisions. He feels he rest can be taught. He grew up as an O-lineman so he believes that goodtrams start with good lines. If I were a betting man, he will look QB or OL with his draft picks and FA targets. If there is no franchise QB or OL targets, expect him to trade down and add extra 1sts and 2nds. Don't be surprised if he brings in a Vick or even McNabb to teach his young QBs his system initially but don't worry - it would be temporary. Don't be surprised if he tries to trade a 4th rd pick for Kevin Kolb. He's no stud but he's been taught the system. Andy will bring in WRs that are good route runners but not necessarily big or speedy name guys. He prefers RBs that are good chip blockers, pass catchers, and screen runners. His OL will be smallish, but agile pass blockers.

Andy has and always will need a good defensive coordinator that can manage the entire defensive side of the ball. We all loved Jim Johnson for his agressive turnover-inducing style that gives the O a short field. It was a big reason the Eagles were so successful in scoring, particularly in the red zone. After JJ passed, Reid wasn't as successful without good defensive help.

Andy makes good decisions but you may find yourself frustrated when he doesn't draft the obvious need on draft day, makes conservative calls in the two-minute drill, and leaves Hillis on the sideline when trying to convert on 3rd and 1 just outside field goal range.

But, he's a great coach. We will miss him in Philly. I've rooted for the Chiefs since going to my first game at Arrowhead in 88. Glad I've got another good reason to watch.

Rasputin · 01-05-2013, 03:55 PM

Thank you eagleRob. That seems like a fair minded take on Andy Reid.

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O.city · 01-05-2013, 04:13 PM

Yep, we need an OT or ILB with the first overall pick.

Chiefs Pantalones · 01-05-2013, 04:13 PM

Any player could bust. It doesn't matter what spot you take him. The whole draft is a freaking crap shoot. Just take your highest QB on your board at #1. What have we got to lose?

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-05-2013, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

Any player could bust. It doesn't matter what spot you take him. The whole draft is a freaking crap shoot. Just take your highest QB on your board at #1. What have we got to lose?

The next Tyson Jackson, Glenn Dorsey, or Ryan Simms.

whoman69 · 01-05-2013, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

The next Tyson Jackson, Glenn Dorsey, or Ryan Simms.

That sounds like a steep price...tell me it can't be so. BTW, I'm going to steal that sig pic

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-05-2013, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

The next Tyson Jackson, Glenn Dorsey, or Ryan Simms.

I just hope that the Chiefs and Reid don't take a QB #1 because they need a starting QB. I hope that they take a QB at #1 because he fits the system, is the right guy, etc.

We're a ways off from the Combine, so we'll know more after it's completed, but I just don't want them to reach.

O.city · 01-05-2013, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I just hope that the Chiefs and Reid don't take a QB #1 because they need a starting QB. I hope that they take a QB at #1 because he fits the system, is the right guy, etc.

We're a ways off from the Combine, so we'll know more after it's completed, but I just don't want them to reach.

What else would you take?

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-05-2013, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

What else would you take?

I don't know. I've always been weary of making this type of determination before The Combines and before everyone has declared.

All I know is that year after year, teams "Fall In Love" with certain players, so I find it a bit difficult to suggest that "no team" would be willing to move up in the draft.

**DeezNutz** · 01-05-2013, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I just hope that the Chiefs and Reid don't take a QB #1 because they need a starting QB. I hope that they take a QB at #1 because he fits the system, is the right guy, etc.

We're a ways off from the Combine, so we'll know more after it's completed, but I just don't want them to reach.

Any player in this draft could easily be described as a reach at 1/1, so we need to take the QB.

The QB whom we select here will be more talented than any QB whom we could get via trade or FA, so I see it as a no-brainer.

View Poll Results: I will only be happy if Andy Reid selects...
A QB with the 1st pick of the draft	167	48.69%
Trades back and selects a QB in the 1st round	39	11.37%
A QB in the 2nd round of the draft	17	4.96%
A QB in the mid to late rounds of the draft	2	0.58%
A free agent, or trade from another team at QB	10	2.92%
Michael Vick	7	2.04%
Kevin Kolb	2	0.58%
He's Andy ****ing Reid. He knows more than I do. Whoever he takes, I'm good.	94	27.41%
Gaz loves defense, but I want him to select our QB	5	1.46%
Voters: 343. You may not vote on this poll

01-05-2013, 02:17 PM	#5
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2574064	Nassib had a shitty game against one of the worst defenses in college football in his bowl game. No thanks.
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01-05-2013, 03:47 PM	#6
EagleRob Living Vicariously Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Leesburg, VA Casino cash: $10004900	Hi All, Eagles fan here but also root for the Chiefs as I have family in the area. Honestly, I believe Andy's failures recently were a result of the ownership and non-football management layers in the Eagles making moves they believe were a final push for a championship then letting Reid take the fall, along with current Browns GM Joe Banner. Reid and new Eagles GM Howie Roseman didnt see eye to eye on personnel so word is, Reid was resigning if the team didn't terminate his contract. You all are getting a fantastic human being to run your team. He accepts responsibility for failures, though sometimes to a fault, installs a winning atmosphere from Day 1, and turned Philly into a desirable destination for draftees and free agents. He builds around a franchise QB that he drafts, preferring QBs that are tall, strong-armed, and make good decisions. He feels he rest can be taught. He grew up as an O-lineman so he believes that goodtrams start with good lines. If I were a betting man, he will look QB or OL with his draft picks and FA targets. If there is no franchise QB or OL targets, expect him to trade down and add extra 1sts and 2nds. Don't be surprised if he brings in a Vick or even McNabb to teach his young QBs his system initially but don't worry - it would be temporary. Don't be surprised if he tries to trade a 4th rd pick for Kevin Kolb. He's no stud but he's been taught the system. Andy will bring in WRs that are good route runners but not necessarily big or speedy name guys. He prefers RBs that are good chip blockers, pass catchers, and screen runners. His OL will be smallish, but agile pass blockers. Andy has and always will need a good defensive coordinator that can manage the entire defensive side of the ball. We all loved Jim Johnson for his agressive turnover-inducing style that gives the O a short field. It was a big reason the Eagles were so successful in scoring, particularly in the red zone. After JJ passed, Reid wasn't as successful without good defensive help. Andy makes good decisions but you may find yourself frustrated when he doesn't draft the obvious need on draft day, makes conservative calls in the two-minute drill, and leaves Hillis on the sideline when trying to convert on 3rd and 1 just outside field goal range. But, he's a great coach. We will miss him in Philly. I've rooted for the Chiefs since going to my first game at Arrowhead in 88. Glad I've got another good reason to watch.
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01-05-2013, 04:13 PM	#8
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01-05-2013, 02:13 PM	#1
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01-05-2013, 04:13 PM	#9
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