AFCW: Week 4

[Mile High Mania]

Let me start by saying that I'm honestly very happy to see the Chiefs playing well. I've said this for years - but, I love it when the division is dominant. It's great for everyone in the long run and from a rivalry perspective, it's greatness.

I don't think either KC or Denver has truly been tested yet by a complete team... but, you can only play the teams that are up next and do what you're supposed to do. Things will shake out a bit over the next month and we'll have a much better picture at the halfway mark.

Broncos 3-0
Chiefs 3-0
Chargers 1-2
Raiders 1-2

Flip the order for Den and KC and it doesn't matter at this point...

Week 4 has the following:

Eagles @ Broncos
Giants @ Chiefs
Cowboys @ Chargers
Redskins @ Raiders

It's a pure NFCE vs AFCW and all AFC teams are at home...

Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked with any result in this game. The NFCE teams have talent and most are scrambling to find a win, especially the Giants. It's been ugly through 3 weeks and @ KC is going to be miserable for them if they don't figure out how to play football again.

The Eagles are interesting to me because of Vick/McCoy/Jackson ... that's a trio that can be lethal and Denver likes to play soft at times on 3rd down, against scrambling QBs and they give up big plays. I think the Broncos offense will be more than they can handle, but I think it will be a shootout.

The Cowboys and Chargers are a toss up to me - both have big play potential but both can play brain dead with the best of them.

Raiders and Redskins... another one that I wouldn't touch from a gambling perspective, but Shanny loves beating the Raiders and they're due if the defense can man up. I think the Redskins surprise them here, esp if Pryor is dinged up.

My thoughts...

Chiefs 34 / Giants 20
Broncos 44 / Eagles 34
Cowboys 27 / Chargers 24
Redskins 20 / Raiders 16

And, there you go... how about you?

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by TEX

Wow. Denver gets another home game. What's that make it 3 out of 4 to start the season with the times and dates for the first 3 providing the most rest possible between games? Denver is good enough not to need NFL Wellfare. Just one of the reasons why I cant stand their asses. They get special treatment - always have.

I laughed after the game last night when I heard BIG HEAD say,"It's going to be tough this week because it's a short one"...LOL! Well Paeton, you prima donna, you just got the MOST REST POSSIBLE between games to start the season -

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

You know the Giants have given up 36, 41 and 38 in each of the last 3 games...

Chiefs have scored 28, 17 and 26 ... so 34 isn't really going out on a limb here.

Yeah it is, when you understand the situation of our scoring. The reality is that our offense scored 21, 17 and 19 in games where there was a every potential for KC to score in the 30s or 40s. Now, if the Giants continue their trend of turning the ball over 1100 times/game and we continue our trend of taking it away 1100 times/game, 34 points is possible, but until the offense can start to do some things on its own, it's an outside shot at best.

And, regarding the best offense the Broncos have seen ... I dunno, looking at Playmakers - I'd put the Giants over them easily as a whole. They're just in a rut right now.

I'm talking pure performance through 3 weeks. The Eagles have done more on the field than either Baltimore (who has yet to have a good offensive day) or the Giants. I would also argue that the trio of Vick, Jackson and McCoy is more talented than anyone they've faced the first three weeks, and while Vick is certainly capable of giving a game away, Eli's outdoing him there this year.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by TEX

Wow. Denver gets another home game. What's that make it 3 out of 4 to start the season with the times and dates for the first 3 providing the most rest possible between games? Denver is good enough not to need NFL Wellfare. Just one of the reasons why I cant stand their asses. They get special treatment - always have.

I laughed after the game last night when I heard BIG HEAD say,"It's going to be tough this week because it's a short one"...LOL! Well Paeton, you prima donna, you just got the MOST REST POSSIBLE between games to start the season -

Well, to even the score... this team with an old broke neck QB has to travel for 4 of the final 6.

@NEP
@KC
TEN
SDC
@HOU
@OAK

5 of their 8 games after the bye week are on the road. Does that not even things up a touch? I'd much rather have it the other way around.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by TEX

Wow. Denver gets another home game. What's that make it 3 out of 4 to start the season with the times and dates for the first 3 providing the most rest possible between games? Denver is good enough not to need NFL Wellfare. Just one of the reasons why I cant stand their asses. They get special treatment - always have.

I laughed after the game last night when I heard BIG HEAD say,"It's going to be tough this week because it's a short one"...LOL! Well Paeton, you prima donna, you just got the MOST REST POSSIBLE between games to start the season -

I'm sure it's only a coincidence that they play 4 home games in the 6 weeks Miller is out.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'm talking pure performance through 3 weeks. The Eagles have done more on the field than either Baltimore (who has yet to have a good offensive day) or the Giants. I would also argue that the trio of Vick, Jackson and McCoy is more talented than anyone they've faced the first three weeks, and while Vick is certainly capable of giving a game away, Eli's outdoing him there this year.

Yeah, but the EAGLES have played the Redskins, Chargers and Chiefs...

Giants lost a fairly close one @ Dallas, blown our vs DEN and fell asleep vs the Panthers.

You can slice these things so many ways. WAS may be the worst defense in the league and SD isn't that great.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'm sure it's only a coincidence that they play 4 home games in the 6 weeks Miller is out.

You know that's a great point. And, riddle me this... a cold weather team NOT playing at home in the final two weeks, but rather in south Texas and in Southern California. Hmmm...

Where's Oliver Stone?

[TEX]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'm sure it's only a coincidence that they play 4 home games in the 6 weeks Miller is out.

Dude you're EXACTLY right. Gotta mae sure Manning and the Broncos get off to a good start. Makes me F-Ing MAD as HELL! Here's the deal with Miller - he should have been suspended for a whole year. Dude tried to alter the drug test. It's laughable that they only added 2 games to his suspension and gave the Donx the home schedule they did to start the year. A complete JOKE!

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by TEX

Wow. Denver gets another home game. What's that make it 3 out of 4 to start the season with the times and dates for the first 3 providing the most rest possible between games? Denver is good enough not to need NFL Wellfare. Just one of the reasons why I cant stand their asses. They get special treatment - always have.

I laughed after the game last night when I heard BIG HEAD say,"It's going to be tough this week because it's a short one"...LOL! Well Paeton, you prima donna, you just got the MOST REST POSSIBLE between games to start the season -

Oh back to this topic - I don't see KC winning this week. The 0-3 Giants are DESPORATE! It's not a good matchup for KC. Little Manning will go deep and burn our CB's becasue we play a LOT of man coverage. The calls are going to go against the Chiefs - can't have the Giants go 0-4.

Cheating Donx over the Eagles
The Boys over the Bolts
The Redskins over the Raiders

Every team in the division loses EXCEPT Denver - just how the league office likes it!

Jesus. That time of the month?

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by TEX

Dude you're EXACTLY right. Gotta mae sure Manning and the Broncos get off to a good start. Makes me F-Ing MAD as HELL! Here's the deal with Miller - he should have been suspended for a whole year. Dude tried to alter the drug test. It's laughable that they only added 2 games to his suspension and gave the Donx the home schedule they did to start the year. A complete JOKE!

Yes, all part of the master plan...

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

You know that's a great point. And, riddle me this... a cold weather team NOT playing at home in the final two weeks, but rather in south Texas and in Southern California. Hmmm...

Where's Oliver Stone?

Big Deal - several teams are in that exact boat. Things will be settled LONG before then. NONE got the break Denver got to start the season. N-O-N-E. ALL Denver did was win a Division and they get treated like they won the Super Bowl or something - actually they get treated better than the team that did. Actually they got treated better than any team in the league to start. What a surprise.

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I don't think either KC or Denver has truly been tested yet by a complete team... but, you can only play the teams that are up next and do what you're supposed to do.

There are no complete teams anymore. Teams have to hide their weaknesses and play to their strengths.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Yeah, but the EAGLES have played the Redskins, Chargers and Chiefs...

Giants lost a fairly close one @ Dallas, blown our vs DEN and fell asleep vs the Panthers.

You can slice these things so many ways. WAS may be the worst defense in the league and SD isn't that great.

I think San Diego is better defensively than you're giving them credit for.

Either way, McCoy and Vick are both better than the equivalent players on the Giants right now, and Jackson is at least equivalent to Cruz. Nicks is better than Avant, but I don't think it's a night-and-day thing. I'd probably take Celek and Ertz over Myers and whoever else the Giants have.

Now that I've said all that, watch the Giants lay 40 on us.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

You know that's a great point. And, riddle me this... a cold weather team NOT playing at home in the final two weeks, but rather in south Texas and in Southern California. Hmmm...

Where's Oliver Stone?

That's fine by me. When they get back to play two weeks later with home field advantage, they won't be ready for the cold weather.

Another bye bye Peyton moment.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Yes, all part of the master plan...

Sure the **** is. Only your kind cant see it that way. Never have and never will. Are you actually trying to suggest that the league does not play favorites???? You know damn well it does. You're far from an idiot, but you are a Donx fan so I understand the mindset.

[the Talking Can]

if the Chiefs offense can't score on the Giants, we have real problems...this i'm afraid to throw to WRs thing has got to stop, and they have to throw the damn ball to our highest paid WR (why did we pay him?)...even if he is - gasp! - "covered" (which actually means "not wide open" or "not a rb out of the backfield")

regardless, the Giants are a gutless shit show and our defense - even if it gives up a couple of big td plays - should still generate enough mayhem for the Chiefs to win..but a nervy 24-17 game wouldn't shock me...our offense hasn't shown a killer instinct yet

i don't think Denver can disrupt Philly's offense the way we did, but it won't matter...Denver will straight rape the eagles defense..35-24, but feels like a blowout

Dallas beats the Chargers, they're just better imo...and Rivers is a bigger clown than Romo..i also think (hope) this is the game that Dez goes off for 2 tds

Washington beats the Raiders...RGIII is slowly pulling it together