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Old 09-10-2011, 01:09 PM  
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Gone Vegan.... it ain't been all peaches & cream

Hey you vegan Planeteers - how did you do it? Its not as easy as it sounds. I know - I won't have clogged arteries or colon cancer or heart disease & I'll live longer. But its not easy to cook without oil or cheese or eggs or meat or milk. You pull those out of your favorite recipes & there ain't much left. Whats left over is pretty tasteless unless you throw piles of herbs at it. So everything tastes like a pile of herbs. Is there a science to this that I'm not aware of? Don't you ever miss saying stuff like, "Thats a f'ing good milkshake. Don't know if its worth $5, but its a f'ing good milkshake!"?
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Old 09-10-2011, 05:13 PM   #61
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Good luck with the vegan thing.

I hear a lot of vegans say "We're not supposed to eat meat...look at our teeth."

I call bullshit. Look at our eyes. Canine, feline, bears and humans have their eyes on the front of their faces. This helps them see farther for hunting prey. (Predators)

Prey (deer, elk, cows, etc...)have their eyes on the side of their heads to keep a better eye out for predators.

In conclusion, going vegan will make your eyes shift to the sides of your head.

Humans aren't predators.

Forget eyes and teeth, take a look at our digestive system. Predators have like... 8 feet of intestines and expel their food 6 hours after eating. We have long ass intestines that takes 24 hours to expel what we eat. Humans, as well as most apes, are frugivores. Our digestive system is has evolved from a diet of fruits and nuts.

That being said, there's more than a little evidence that our substantial intellect would have been impossible without a meat rich diet because of the protein required for such an evolution. Most likely during this time we were scavenging bone marrow or living on fish. That's the theory anyway. Animals that do not eat meat tend to be the less intelligent because they don't get enough protein to allow a powerful brain to function.

Things don't evolve as narrowly as would be convenient. The fact is that both humans and our genetic relatives (Apes) all eat meat as part of their diet. It's obvious looking at human evolution that while we were frugivores for the majority of our evolution, our current level of intellect would not have been reached without a protein rich diet that can really only be found in meat.
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Old 09-10-2011, 05:24 PM   #62
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Humans aren't predators.

Forget eyes and teeth, take a look at our digestive system. Predators have like... 8 feet of intestines and expel their food 6 hours after eating. We have long ass intestines that takes 24 hours to expel what we eat. Humans, as well as most apes, are frugivores. Our digestive system is has evolved from a diet of fruits and nuts.

That being said, there's more than a little evidence that our substantial intellect would have been impossible without a meat rich diet because of the protein required for such an evolution. Most likely during this time we were scavenging bone marrow or living on fish. That's the theory anyway. Animals that do not eat meat tend to be the less intelligent because they don't get enough protein to allow a powerful brain to function.

Things don't evolve as narrowly as would be convenient. The fact is that both humans and our genetic relatives (Apes) all eat meat as part of their diet. It's obvious looking at human evolution that while we were frugivores for the majority of our evolution, our current level of intellect would not have been reached without a protein rich diet that can really only be found in meat.

So what you're saying is that if we don't kill the Kodiak bears, the Kodiak bears will eventually rule the earth.
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Old 09-10-2011, 05:26 PM   #63
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So what you're saying is that if we don't kill the Kodiak bears, the Kodiak bears will eventually rule the earth.
Not until they evolve oppose able thumbs.
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Old 09-10-2011, 05:53 PM   #64
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I was listening to some author being interviewed about a trip he took in the South American rain forest. He said the tribe of people in the rainforest had two words for hungry. One was just hungry and the other meant hungry for meat.
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Old 09-10-2011, 06:09 PM   #65
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Humans are omnivores.
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Old 09-10-2011, 06:10 PM   #66
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Being a vegan isn't healthy at all.
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Old 09-10-2011, 06:13 PM   #67
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Being a vegan isn't healthy at all.
I'm sure you've done extensive research to come up with that.
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Old 09-10-2011, 06:16 PM   #68
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Old 09-10-2011, 06:21 PM   #69
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Dude. There are plenty of great vegan recipes. Just google it. You'd be surprised. I've experimented with some extreme diets, and I find eliminating gluten to be much more impactful to both weight loss and generally feeling healthy and energized. That said, I think the best thing you can do is eat food you make yourself with fresh ingredients and as few chemicals as possible. Lots of vegetables and fruit. Cut down on alcohol, fatty meats, and caffeine. Basically common sense stuff.
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Shouldn't the thread say, "It's not all peaches and soy milk"?
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I couldn't imagine going through life eating nothing but side dishes...
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