Chiefs A Broncos blogger's take on the Chiefs - Page 2

WhiteWhale · 09-21-2013, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

A buddy (who is not at all a Chiefs fan) texted me this exact same thing during the game.

The one part of this blog I disagree on is the "Chiefs can be run on" bit. Sure VICK can run on us, but that's really it. I think we'll continue to dominate on rush D when playing teams that don't have a running QB.

McCoy is so good. He's really one of my favorite players in the NFL. I'll watch Eagles games just to see him run.

I'm not really too ashamed that he burned us in that game. He's a special talent like JC. Sometimes you can't do ANYTHING right to stop him.

When you rush a guy with Vick's speed you shouldn't be surprised when he breaks off a few long runs. The stats are skewed because of our approach to Vick. The team was willing to sacrifice a few potential long runs for pressuring him in the pocket and overall it paid off with 2 INT's and a very poor completion %.

Direckshun · 09-20-2013, 02:04 PM

McCoy killed us, man, with his 6- and 7-yard carries.

He's just an outstanding runner, though. Denver doesn't have that. The closest AFC power that does is Houston, and Arian Foster's on his last legs it seems.

**The Franchise** · 09-20-2013, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

McCoy killed us, man, with his 6- and 7-yard carries.

He's just an outstanding runner, though. Denver doesn't have that. The closest AFC power that does is Houston, and Arian Foster's on his last legs it seems.

McCoy feeds off of Vick though. I'm not saying he's talented but when a defense always has to be wary of the QB taking off.....they spend less time keying on the RB.

MJD = Jack shit
Murray = Jack shit

jspchief · 09-20-2013, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

McCoy feeds off of Vick though. I'm not saying he's talented but when a defense always has to be wary of the QB taking off.....they spend less time keying on the RB.

MJD = Jack shit
Murray = Jack shit

Agree

listopencil · 09-20-2013, 02:26 PM

IAOFM is a remarkably high quality blog as these things go. They don't do homer bullshit and they will provide some nice Football 101 type articles. I've got them on my FB feed.

ThaVirus · 09-20-2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

IAOFM is a remarkably high quality blog as these things go. They don't do homer bullshit and they will provide some nice Football 101 type articles. I've got them on my FB feed.

Yeah, he has a legitimate understanding of our strengths and weaknesses- particularly on defense.

I was impressed after reading.

keg in kc · 09-20-2013, 02:31 PM

They seemed to sell out on hitting Vick and disrupting his rhythm in the passing game. They can do the same thing with Peyton, and he's not any threat to break out on long runs. The risk there is the receiver core, but as fast as Hali, Houston and Poe (and DJ and Berry and the DBs) can get into the backfield, that could be a challenge, too.

What can't happen is Manning standing like a statue behind a wall of blockers scanning the field for 5 seconds without so much as a blade of grass staining his jersey.

The flip side is that their defense is also very good, and so far this season our offense doesn't look very reliable. Our defense stopping Denver likely still results in them scoring 24+ points. Their defense stopping us probably means 10 at this point.

**DaFace** · 09-20-2013, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

They seemed to sell out on hitting Vick and disrupting his rhythm in the passing game. They can do the same thing with Peyton, and he's not any threat to break out on long runs. The risk there is the receiver core, but as fast as Hali, Houston and Poe (and DJ and Berry and the DBs) can get into the backfield, that could be a challenge, too.

What can't happen is Manning standing like a statue behind a wall of blockers scanning the field for 5 seconds without so much as a blade of grass staining his jersey.

The flip side is that their defense is also very good, and so far this season our offense doesn't look very reliable. Our defense stopping Denver likely still results in them scoring 24+ points. Their defense stopping us probably means 10 at this point.

Yep. As the article kind of alludes to, we're in good shape to beat up on average teams and win a lot of games. However, at some point, you do have to put up some points.

I hate to say it, but we're kind of seeing a form of Martyball. If it's a stepping stone to respectability and being competitive, I'm all for it. I do hope that a boring, ball control offense isn't our MO long-term though.

**Mav** · 09-20-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

Yep. As the article kind of alludes to, we're in good shape to beat up on average teams and win a lot of games. However, at some point, you do have to put up some points.

I hate to say it, but we're kind of seeing a form of Martyball. If it's a stepping stone to respectability and being competitive, I'm all for it. I do hope that a boring, ball control offense isn't our MO long-term though.

The offense is going to come around as the playcalling improves, the oline improves and the Chiefs get some sort of resolution at tight end.

DJ's left nut · 09-20-2013, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

Yep. As the article kind of alludes to, we're in good shape to beat up on average teams and win a lot of games. However, at some point, you do have to put up some points.

I hate to say it, but we're kind of seeing a form of Martyball. If it's a stepping stone to respectability and being competitive, I'm all for it. I do hope that a boring, ball control offense isn't our MO long-term though.

Exactly - it's "Bizarro-Martyball".

Three yards and a cloud of....uh...air?

**Mav** · 09-20-2013, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Exactly - it's "Bizarro-Martyball".

Three yards and a cloud of....uh...air?

its not exactly what people had in mind when they heard, ALEX plus andy = 35 times a game is it?

milkman · 09-21-2013, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

Yep. As the article kind of alludes to, we're in good shape to beat up on average teams and win a lot of games. However, at some point, you do have to put up some points.

I hate to say it, but we're kind of seeing a form of Martyball. If it's a stepping stone to respectability and being competitive, I'm all for it. I do hope that a boring, ball control offense isn't our MO long-term though.

I don't have a problem with the Martyball philosophy as defined by most.

You can win a lot of games, and championships, I believe.

But you have to have a QB, and you have to attack.

Martyball will move the chains.
A QB and coach that aren't afraid to take some risks and make big plays will score you points.

WhiteWhale · 09-21-2013, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I don't have a problem with the Martyball philosophy as defined by most.

You can win a lot of games, and championships, I believe.

But you have to have a QB, and you have to attack.

Martyball will move the chains.
A QB and coach that aren't afraid to take some risks and make big plays will score you points.

While I appreciate the ability to protect the football, I still feel smith is too timid with the ball. I really think it's mental.. he could probably make a lot more plays if he was just willing to pull the trigger. I still feel he puts a cap on our potential to get to a championship, but it WILL beat sloppier teams.

Reid indicated that he was pushing him to be more aggressive, so I'm hoping as the offense's chemistry progresses he shows more willingness to throw some of the deeper stuff. I don't expect Smith to throw over defenses all day. I'd like to see more passes traveling 15-20 yards in the air.

Coach · 09-21-2013, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

While I appreciate the ability to protect the football, I still feel smith is too timid with the ball. I really think it's mental.. he could probably make a lot more plays if he was just willing to pull the trigger. I still feel he puts a cap on our potential to get to a championship, but it WILL beat sloppier teams.

Reid indicated that he was pushing him to be more aggressive, so I'm hoping as the offense's chemistry progresses he shows more willingness to throw some of the deeper stuff. I don't expect Smith to throw over defenses all day. I'd like to see more passes traveling 15-20 yards in the air.

I can see why Smith is timid because the O-line has some issues that they need to resolve.

milkman · 09-22-2013, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

While I appreciate the ability to protect the football, I still feel smith is too timid with the ball. I really think it's mental.. he could probably make a lot more plays if he was just willing to pull the trigger. I still feel he puts a cap on our potential to get to a championship, but it WILL beat sloppier teams.

Reid indicated that he was pushing him to be more aggressive, so I'm hoping as the offense's chemistry progresses he shows more willingness to throw some of the deeper stuff. I don't expect Smith to throw over defenses all day. I'd like to see more passes traveling 15-20 yards in the air.

We are in agreement.

I've said it numerous times in the last months.
Alex Smith has better arm strength than he is given credit for, and sh9uld have the ability to "throw his receivers open".

There is some risk involved in that, and timid is the absolute best descriptor to use in discussing Smith's aversion to make those throws.

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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	They seemed to sell out on hitting Vick and disrupting his rhythm in the passing game. They can do the same thing with Peyton, and he's not any threat to break out on long runs. The risk there is the receiver core, but as fast as Hali, Houston and Poe (and DJ and Berry and the DBs) can get into the backfield, that could be a challenge, too. What can't happen is Manning standing like a statue behind a wall of blockers scanning the field for 5 seconds without so much as a blade of grass staining his jersey. The flip side is that their defense is also very good, and so far this season our offense doesn't look very reliable. Our defense stopping Denver likely still results in them scoring 24+ points. Their defense stopping us probably means 10 at this point.
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