Redskin trade for the number 2 pick Goodbye RGIII

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Major scoopage: Redskins have agreed to a trade w Rams for #2 pick of draft. Rams and Skins swap (cont) http://tl.gd/gbhvr8



Major scoopage: Redskins have agreed to a trade w Rams for #2 pick of draft. Rams and Skins swap first rounders this yr w Rams also getting 2 future #1s and additional picks. Story coming on fox sports dot com




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Washington Redskins traded three first-round draft picks and a second-round pick to St. Louis for second overall pick … http://say.ly/frx1yvb

[Chief_For_Life58]

Originally Posted by O.city

If it took 3 1sts for the Skins to get up there, we would have had to probably go with 4 or atleast 2 more 2 rounders.

yeah it all came down to that 1st round pick this year. the skins being at 6 realllllly ****ing helped them. Now the rams are trading out of their pick, getting 3 extra potential starters and still drafting someone whos the best at their position this year. I dont think we could of ever gotten the rams pick unless you want to pull a ricky

[FAX]

Originally Posted by cdcox

RGIII basically has to be a HOFer for the Skins to come out ahead. Lots of ways for them to come out behind.

I concur with the opinion expressed in the above post.

FAX

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by FAX

I concur with the opinion expressed in the above post.

FAX

Depends. Lets say they keep the picks and get good players from them for the next 5 years. They are unable to ever get a really good QB. In that situation they are just as screwed as if they gave it up and failed. You don't win SBs anymore if you don't have a great QB.

[Chief_For_Life58]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Depends. Lets say they keep the picks and get good players from them for the next 5 years. They are unable to ever get a really good QB. In that situation they are just as screwed as if they gave it up and failed. You don't win SBs anymore if you don't have a great QB.

wait, are you talking about the chiefs?

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58

wait, are you talking about the chiefs?

Redskins. You could apply that to basically any team though. Either you have a great QB or you are just fill for the schedule.

[Chief_For_Life58]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Redskins. You could apply that to basically any team though. Either you have a great QB or you are just fill for the schedule.

i know youre talking about the skins. Im saying that because were jusssstttt alittle too good to actually get a good qb every year. isnt it awesome? mediocrity? god i love it.




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[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Hope your keyboard isn't sticky in the morning.

Too late.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58

i know youre talking about the skins. Im saying that because were jusssstttt alittle too good to actually get a good qb every year. isnt it awesome? mediocrity? god i love it.




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Maybe not your fault. Looking back I should have atleast suspected thats what you meant.

[Rams Fan]

First off, I am pretty ****ing impressed with Snead. Not only has he done something that Devaney was unable to do, he has pretty much gotten the arsenal for the next 2 seasons if the Rams need to make a trade with anyone if they want to move up or sign a RFA with a 1st round tender while still having a 1st round pick.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Starbucks Fan

First off, I am pretty ****ing impressed with Snead. Not only has he done something that Devaney was unable to do, he has pretty much gotten the arsenal for the next 2 seasons if the Rams need to make a trade with anyone if they want to move up or sign a RFA with a 1st round tender while still having a 1st round pick.

I didn't even realize you were Rams Fan. I had wondered where you went.

[BossChief]

Not sure if I make that deal /Ditka

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

I didn't even realize you were Rams Fan. I had wondered where you went.

Floppy changed my user name due to the results of the Rams season record vs the Seahawks. I'm still Rams Fan, with just a different name.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Depends. Lets say they keep the picks and get good players from them for the next 5 years. They are unable to ever get a really good QB. In that situation they are just as screwed as if they gave it up and failed. You don't win SBs anymore if you don't have a great QB.

Okay. That makes sense, Mr. NJChiefsFan, but strap this on and perform a squat thrust.

By now, due in large measure to rule changes over the last decade or so, everyone is utterly convinced that a "franchise" quarterback is a necessity in the league and, therefore, highly valued (see Redskins/Rams trade).

But, when you break it down, that is merely a basic supply/demand problem. There are simply too few super-talented, sure-fire, great young quarterbacks coming out of college to match the number of teams in the league who need someone who meets that criteria. And, that problem is exacerbated when the issue of injury arises (see Colts/Manning).

And just as supply/demand issues are resolved in other fields of endeavor, this problem leaves NFL teams with only a few possible solutions.

First, they can exacerbate all over themselves and try to win with a dumbass under center (See Chiefs/Cassel). Or, they can leverage their immediate future success by acquiring a super expensive guy (in the form of picks) who, although considered by many to be a good risk, has yet to take a single NFL snap. (see Redskins/RGIII)

Or, they can learn how to develop a young quarterback who possesses the physical and mental attributes sufficient to play the game at a high level, but has not yet been coached up or provided with sufficient opportunities to gain experience or a competitive advantage on the field.

Eventually, I think that's what teams are going to have to do. Guys like Luck and RGIII are simply rare. You can't simply flip over a rock and find one of those guys. Plus, the potential injury problem is constantly looming. The question is; can you develop a guy like a Montana or a Brady (lower round guys) into franchise-level quarterbacks who can win Super Bowls. And, of course, the answer to that is "Yeah, baby!! My schlong is harder than a Georgia peach pit!!!".

So, it can be done. Are those cases more rare than a Luck or an RGIII or a Manning coming out of college? Probably not. I submit that, if teams don't yet know how to develop quarterbacks at the NFL level, they'd better damn well learn how to do it. Or, given the NFL's desire to make this an offense-driven, passing league, there will never be anything close to parity and, instead, there will be two or three teams who dominate during the 10-year, career peaks of the fortunate few and there will be everybody else floundering around like a bunch of ignorant losers who are just happy to have their asses kicked in round 1 of the playoffs (see us).

FAX

[NJChiefsFan]

I agree that there are other options. I am just saying that what the Redskins did isn't really that crazy. If you believe this guy is legit and don't want to try to find that guy to groom, than 2 firsts and a 2nd arent that terrible. We would be giving up Hudson, Baldwin and Berry for RG3 if you were to take our last 2 firsts and our last 2nd. They are taking a gamble and they may fail. Right now we are guaranteed to fail with Matt.

[Bewbies]

If he pans out they got him cheap, if he busts they all get fired. If they never get a QB they all get fired. At least they ****ing tried...