Fantasy Baseball

Prince22 · 06-08-2006, 11:47 PM

I voted against a trade as did enough people to have the trade vetoed. I think this trade is BS but I just wanted an opinion from those who play fantasy baseball.

Team A gets: Hanley Ramirez and Isringhausen
Team B gets: Sizemore and J.Rollins

Team A is in last place in saves but this is rediculous. He's getting hosed. But yet he's the one thats pissed off the most.

I should point out that Team A has never played fantasy baseball before (obviously) and Team B has which is why he's been taking a few rookies to the cleaners.

What do you think? Is this a fair deal? Even close?

Miles · 06-08-2006, 11:55 PM

Depends on your scoring format. Doesn't seem all that bad to me. I wouldn't question team A's ability much if he picked up Hanley on waivers.

Prince22 · 06-08-2006, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Miles

Depends on your scoring format. Doesn't seem all that bad to me. I wouldn't question team A's ability much if he picked up Hanley on waivers.

He didn't Team B picked up Hanley off waivers a while ago and he's trading him to Team A. Team A has made 5 transactions all year. I'm suprised he know how to accept a trade.

tk13 · 06-09-2006, 12:02 AM

Well, I wouldn't do that that trade, but it's not totally absurd. Izzy does have a lot of saves. Rollins has been struggling. He was actually dropped in a public league I was in. I scooped him up and he's been heating up lately.

Isringhausen is really unpredictable right now though. He keeps racking up saves. He should have even more. LaRussa will probably remain pretty loyal to the guy I'd imagine, that's just how he is, even if every Cards fan in America starts screaming for Wainwright. Saves are a valuable commodity.

Miles · 06-09-2006, 12:23 AM

Just to give you something to compare, Hanley was traded for Berkman in my league and no one objected. And the extra throw ins defintily favored the team that got Berk.

Infidel Goat · 06-09-2006, 06:55 AM

If a majority of teams vetoed the deal, the manager of team A should accept the veto.

He should also learn that he'll have 15 chances to pick up the new reliever flavor of the month before the season ends.

Sfeihc · 06-09-2006, 07:28 AM

I don't like it. Sizemore is the best player in the deal and JRoll is the second best player in the deal. Rookies are still rookies and closers' shelf lives keep getting shorter and shorter. Plus how many saves is Izzy going to get with Carp and Phat Al on the DL?

cookster50 · 06-09-2006, 08:14 AM

That trade should never have been vetoed. That is one reason I hate the veto rule. People veto trades based on whether or not it hurts their chances, not whether or not the trade is fair. SCREW YOU VETO LOVING, TREE HUGGING, NUT CRACKING, LEFT WING LIBERAL NUTCASES!!!

duncan_idaho · 06-09-2006, 08:31 AM

That's not a horrible trade... but I probably would have vetoed it as well...

It's not as bad as the deal I was offered earlier this week:

Melvin Mora and Eric Gagne for David Wright (I have Wright).

The guy apparently thought I was a moron. My counter offer: Preston Wilson for Chase Utley and Grady Sizemore. He thought that was funny...

We've met in the middle, though. He's giving me Sizemore and Chris Ray (I need an outfielder and more saves) for Wright and Akinori Otsuka.

What do you guys think of that? I can slide Jorge Cantu to third base, and I think Frankie Cordero is going to get the Rangers' closing job back eventually.

KevB · 06-09-2006, 09:20 AM

I don't think the trade was so bad that it should have been vetoed personally. I agree with Damark....it was vetoed because other owner's decided it would hurt their chances. Maybe the guy is very high on Hanley Ramirez....who are you to say he's wrong? Rollins hasn't been very good this year, and Izzy has a bunch of saves.

I don't think it's an even trade, but it shouldn't have been vetoed.

Prince22 · 06-09-2006, 09:23 AM

All this guy is getting out of this is Saves.

He's giving up RUNS, RBIs, HR, AVG, and SB for saves.

He's already too far behind the top dawgs in saves so all hes going to do is gain 2 maybe 3 points in saves and loose in all the other categories that sizemore brings.

And damark this doesnt hurt my chances at all. It probably help me pass this guy if he traded Sizemore.

broncoholic · 06-09-2006, 10:21 AM

Who cares if it is fair?
Owners get hosed in trades all the time.

The ONLY reason to veto a trade in fantasy sports is collusion.

In your opinion was the trade collusive?

Sfeihc · 06-09-2006, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by damark

That trade should never have been vetoed. That is one reason I hate the veto rule. People veto trades based on whether or not it hurts their chances, not whether or not the trade is fair. SCREW YOU VETO LOVING, TREE HUGGING, NUT CRACKING, LEFT WING LIBERAL NUTCASES!!!

StcChief · 06-09-2006, 11:44 AM

Why I stopped playing Callusion always happens...
Not enough vetos to stop stuff.

HolmeZz · 06-09-2006, 12:45 PM

That's definitely not a bad enough trade to get vetoed.

06-08-2006, 11:47 PM
Prince22 Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lexington KY Casino cash: $7124910	Fantasy Baseball I voted against a trade as did enough people to have the trade vetoed. I think this trade is BS but I just wanted an opinion from those who play fantasy baseball. Team A gets: Hanley Ramirez and Isringhausen Team B gets: Sizemore and J.Rollins Team A is in last place in saves but this is rediculous. He's getting hosed. But yet he's the one thats pissed off the most. I should point out that Team A has never played fantasy baseball before (obviously) and Team B has which is why he's been taking a few rookies to the cleaners. What do you think? Is this a fair deal? Even close?
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06-08-2006, 11:55 PM	#2
Miles MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Casino cash: $1642400	Depends on your scoring format. Doesn't seem all that bad to me. I wouldn't question team A's ability much if he picked up Hanley on waivers.
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06-09-2006, 12:02 AM	#4
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1962500	Well, I wouldn't do that that trade, but it's not totally absurd. Izzy does have a lot of saves. Rollins has been struggling. He was actually dropped in a public league I was in. I scooped him up and he's been heating up lately. Isringhausen is really unpredictable right now though. He keeps racking up saves. He should have even more. LaRussa will probably remain pretty loyal to the guy I'd imagine, that's just how he is, even if every Cards fan in America starts screaming for Wainwright. Saves are a valuable commodity.
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06-09-2006, 12:23 AM	#5
Miles MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Casino cash: $1642400	Just to give you something to compare, Hanley was traded for Berkman in my league and no one objected. And the extra throw ins defintily favored the team that got Berk.
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06-09-2006, 06:55 AM	#6
Infidel Goat Beer Sherpa Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: shackled in a cellar Casino cash: $3982493	If a majority of teams vetoed the deal, the manager of team A should accept the veto. He should also learn that he'll have 15 chances to pick up the new reliever flavor of the month before the season ends.
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06-09-2006, 07:28 AM	#7
Sfeihc It's All Good Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $10010133	I don't like it. Sizemore is the best player in the deal and JRoll is the second best player in the deal. Rookies are still rookies and closers' shelf lives keep getting shorter and shorter. Plus how many saves is Izzy going to get with Carp and Phat Al on the DL?
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06-09-2006, 08:14 AM	#8
cookster50 Supreme Commander of My House Join Date: Apr 2004 Casino cash: $3153622	That trade should never have been vetoed. That is one reason I hate the veto rule. People veto trades based on whether or not it hurts their chances, not whether or not the trade is fair. SCREW YOU VETO LOVING, TREE HUGGING, NUT CRACKING, LEFT WING LIBERAL NUTCASES!!!
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06-09-2006, 08:31 AM	#9
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1730308	That's not a horrible trade... but I probably would have vetoed it as well... It's not as bad as the deal I was offered earlier this week: Melvin Mora and Eric Gagne for David Wright (I have Wright). The guy apparently thought I was a moron. My counter offer: Preston Wilson for Chase Utley and Grady Sizemore. He thought that was funny... We've met in the middle, though. He's giving me Sizemore and Chris Ray (I need an outfielder and more saves) for Wright and Akinori Otsuka. What do you guys think of that? I can slide Jorge Cantu to third base, and I think Frankie Cordero is going to get the Rangers' closing job back eventually. __________________ "You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass." ---- Sinatra
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06-09-2006, 09:20 AM	#10
KevB Agree to Disagree Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The State of Euphoria Casino cash: $10026612	I don't think the trade was so bad that it should have been vetoed personally. I agree with Damark....it was vetoed because other owner's decided it would hurt their chances. Maybe the guy is very high on Hanley Ramirez....who are you to say he's wrong? Rollins hasn't been very good this year, and Izzy has a bunch of saves. I don't think it's an even trade, but it shouldn't have been vetoed.
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06-09-2006, 09:23 AM	#11
Prince22 Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lexington KY Casino cash: $7124910	All this guy is getting out of this is Saves. He's giving up RUNS, RBIs, HR, AVG, and SB for saves. He's already too far behind the top dawgs in saves so all hes going to do is gain 2 maybe 3 points in saves and loose in all the other categories that sizemore brings. And damark this doesnt hurt my chances at all. It probably help me pass this guy if he traded Sizemore. __________________ Tayshaun 5 straight threes vs UNC - http://home.fuse.net/eCat/hittinitdeep.wmv
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06-09-2006, 10:21 AM	#12
broncoholic Starter Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Colorado Springs Casino cash: $10004900	Who cares if it is fair? Owners get hosed in trades all the time. The ONLY reason to veto a trade in fantasy sports is collusion. In your opinion was the trade collusive?
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06-09-2006, 11:44 AM	#14
StcChief Playing for #1 Draft Pick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Just West of Lambs land Casino cash: $10004900	Why I stopped playing Callusion always happens... Not enough vetos to stop stuff. __________________ sig test for this screwy schema
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06-09-2006, 12:45 PM	#15
HolmeZz i guess its bittersweet poetry Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NeW HaVeN, CT Casino cash: $10004900	That's definitely not a bad enough trade to get vetoed.
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