Larry Johnson - Page 2

Hootie · 12-10-2006, 06:22 PM

do we still think he has a fumbling problem?

Mecca · 12-10-2006, 06:38 PM

I believe he had 310 coming into today so....330 something I don't remember exactly how many he had today.

Mecca · 12-10-2006, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free

The last person i'm going to worry about today is LJ. The only bright spot in a dreary day.

He put up 120+ yds. on a D that was murdering us, giving up something like 75 yds. per game on the year.

My issues lie elsewhere...

It concerns me because they are riding the hell out of the guy and overworking him and getting nothing out of it. If you could ride it to a Superbowl that's one thing, we can't even ride him to the playoffs, all it will do is shorten his career and we'll have nothing to show for it.

Hootie · 12-10-2006, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

It concerns me because they are riding the hell out of the guy and overworking him and getting nothing out of it. If you could ride it to a Superbowl that's one thing, we can't even ride him to the playoffs, all it will do is shorten his career and we'll have nothing to show for it.

Mecca · 12-10-2006, 06:42 PM

Yea drafting another RB in the first round in 2-3 years is a sound strategy for a team with alot of holes........Hootie sure knows how to win.

Hootie · 12-10-2006, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea drafting another RB in the first round in 2-3 years is a sound strategy for a team with alot of holes........Hootie sure knows how to win.

you're comparing LJ to Jamal Anderson...

Jamal Anderson had knee problems...

Injuries are the reason he was out of the league two years later...

If LJ blows out both of his knees within the next two years then you may be on to something...until then, you're an idiot.

ferrarispider95 · 12-10-2006, 06:48 PM

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Mecca · 12-10-2006, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie

you're comparing LJ to Jamal Anderson...

Jamal Anderson had knee problems...

Injuries are the reason he was out of the league two years later...

If LJ blows out both of his knees within the next two years then you may be on to something...until then, you're an idiot.

Have you missed the posts on here about how all the RBs that carried 400+ times declined afterwards and were never the same? Maybe I should get TK in here to list them for you....they even significantly declined the next season.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-10-2006, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie

you're comparing LJ to Jamal Anderson...

Jamal Anderson had knee problems...

Injuries are the reason he was out of the league two years later...

If LJ blows out both of his knees within the next two years then you may be on to something...until then, you're an idiot.

Why do you think he blew out his knees, you dumbass?

Look at the list of players who've had the highest # of carries and then what happened to them the subsequent year.

It's terrifying for us. Mecca's absolutely right.

tk13 · 12-10-2006, 06:53 PM

LJ's one tough dude. I think he's handled the load pretty well so far. Although we seem to be well on our way to wasting him just like we wasted Priest Holmes. Two all-time all-world backs and we can't get anything done for them.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-10-2006, 06:55 PM

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'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-10-2006, 06:56 PM

By Desmond M. Wallace, CNNSI.com

Back in 1998 when the Denver's Terrell Davis and Atlanta's Jamal Anderson combined to carry the ball a whopping 802 times, some football observers wondered whether the two star running backs were literally being run into the ground.

After all, prior to Davis' arrival, no Denver player had ever notched more than 296 rushes in a single season. And before Anderson made Atlanta his home, no player anywhere in the history of the NFL had ever carried the ball more than the Falcon back's 410 rushing attempts that season.

Those quiet concerns about possible overwork seemed to gain full-scale legitimacy early in 1999. In Week 2, Anderson made a cut on the turf on his third carry of the game at Texas Stadium, tearing his anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee. The year before, Anderson had run for a franchise-record 1,846 yards.

And in Week 4 of '99 -- just two weeks after Anderson crumbled to Earth -- Davis tore the ACL in his right knee, ending his season. In 1998 Davis became just the fourth back ever to eclipse the 2,000-yard barrier, having galloped for 2,008 for the Broncos.

Davis' October injury occurred as he attempted a tackle after a first-quarter Denver interception. With Davis and Anderson busy nursing their serious knee injuries, the Broncos and Falcons, which had each been Super Bowl participants just months earlier, plummeted to 6-10 and 5-11 records respectively.

Carry-over effect?

Can a case be made that Davis' and Anderson's work load may have contributed to the injuries suffered subsequently? Of course, no one knows for sure but an examination of the football careers of the five players with the most single-season carries reveals that no less than four of them suffered serious leg injuries within a couple of years of their monster ground-gaining seasons. (The fifth -- James Wilder -- suffered rib injuries which caused him to miss some action).

Less than two years after registering three consecutive seasons of at least 340 carries, including a then-NFL record 397 rushes in 1985, the Falcons' Gerald Riggs damaged ligaments in his left knee. Following 1988 -- the season of that knee injury -- Riggs would rush just 402 more times in his career.

Within two years of 404- and 388-carry campaigns by 1988, Eric Dickerson went on to suffer hamstring ailments. Even he -- one of the league's all-time rushing kingpins -- would go on to play just one full season thereafter.

So despite their no doubt diligent rehab efforts since last fall, Davis and Anderson may have more work ahead of them than even they realize.

KCLJ27 · 12-10-2006, 06:57 PM

Since the playoffs are now lost yet again, Herm split the carries with Bennnet more, no point in wearing down LJ even more

Hootie · 12-10-2006, 07:19 PM

LJ has never shown to be injury prone in any stage of his career...it's a shame Jamal Anderson and Terrell Davis had knee injuries...but 50 extra carries this year isn't going to take 19 years of his life/career...

12-10-2006, 06:22 PM
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12-10-2006, 06:53 PM	#24
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1882500	LJ's one tough dude. I think he's handled the load pretty well so far. Although we seem to be well on our way to wasting him just like we wasted Priest Holmes. Two all-time all-world backs and we can't get anything done for them.
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12-10-2006, 06:56 PM	#26
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7999572	By Desmond M. Wallace, CNNSI.com Back in 1998 when the Denver's Terrell Davis and Atlanta's Jamal Anderson combined to carry the ball a whopping 802 times, some football observers wondered whether the two star running backs were literally being run into the ground. After all, prior to Davis' arrival, no Denver player had ever notched more than 296 rushes in a single season. And before Anderson made Atlanta his home, no player anywhere in the history of the NFL had ever carried the ball more than the Falcon back's 410 rushing attempts that season. Those quiet concerns about possible overwork seemed to gain full-scale legitimacy early in 1999. In Week 2, Anderson made a cut on the turf on his third carry of the game at Texas Stadium, tearing his anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee. The year before, Anderson had run for a franchise-record 1,846 yards. And in Week 4 of '99 -- just two weeks after Anderson crumbled to Earth -- Davis tore the ACL in his right knee, ending his season. In 1998 Davis became just the fourth back ever to eclipse the 2,000-yard barrier, having galloped for 2,008 for the Broncos. Davis' October injury occurred as he attempted a tackle after a first-quarter Denver interception. With Davis and Anderson busy nursing their serious knee injuries, the Broncos and Falcons, which had each been Super Bowl participants just months earlier, plummeted to 6-10 and 5-11 records respectively. Carry-over effect? Can a case be made that Davis' and Anderson's work load may have contributed to the injuries suffered subsequently? Of course, no one knows for sure but an examination of the football careers of the five players with the most single-season carries reveals that no less than four of them suffered serious leg injuries within a couple of years of their monster ground-gaining seasons. (The fifth -- James Wilder -- suffered rib injuries which caused him to miss some action). Less than two years after registering three consecutive seasons of at least 340 carries, including a then-NFL record 397 rushes in 1985, the Falcons' Gerald Riggs damaged ligaments in his left knee. Following 1988 -- the season of that knee injury -- Riggs would rush just 402 more times in his career. Within two years of 404- and 388-carry campaigns by 1988, Eric Dickerson went on to suffer hamstring ailments. Even he -- one of the league's all-time rushing kingpins -- would go on to play just one full season thereafter. So despite their no doubt diligent rehab efforts since last fall, Davis and Anderson may have more work ahead of them than even they realize. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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12-10-2006, 07:19 PM	#28
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	LJ has never shown to be injury prone in any stage of his career...it's a shame Jamal Anderson and Terrell Davis had knee injuries...but 50 extra carries this year isn't going to take 19 years of his life/career...
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