Ahh, music to my ears: Out with Kurt's soft zone, in with the physical stuff...

DaWolf · 08-02-2001, 10:22 PM

Nice article at the Star regarding our hard hitting safety duo...

[url=http://www.kcstar.com/item/pages/sports.pat,sports/3accde0c.802,.html]Chiefs at ease with Woods and Wesley[/url]

[quote]Robinson's early comfort level speaks volumes, because he's asking the safeties to do different things than former defensive coordinator Kurt Schottenheimer.

Under Schottenheimer, the Chiefs primarily played soft zones, which called for Woods and Wesley to lie back in coverage and read what was happening in front of them.

Robinson prefers to lock his corners into man-to-man coverage and use the safeties to blitz, cover and roam the secondary. Aside from the occasional blown coverage, which is understandable given the newness of the system, Woods and Wesley appear to be adjusting nicely.

"It's a lot more complicated," Wesley said. "The defense we ran last year was a lot more predictable. This year, the safeties are involved in everything. Sometimes we're back, sometimes we're covering somebody, and sometimes we're up in the box to play the run. I like that. Now you never know where a guy is coming from, and I think it's going to be better for us because we have great athletes back there."

So far, the changes haven't limited either player's thirst for contact. Wesley in particular has had to hold back from pounding his own players in practice.

Although still relatively new to the position, having started only 22 games at Arkansas-Pine Bluff, where he was a walk-on, Wesley is a natural when it comes to contact. He could quickly earn mention with established NFL hitmen like Minnesota's Robert Griffith and Tampa Bay's John Lynch.

"You could tell from the first day we put on pads that Greg is a hitter," Robinson said.

Even when the Chiefs don full pads, practice etiquette calls for defensive players to hold up on contact. Yet there are times when it seems that Wesley almost can't help himself.

"Yeah, that's Wes," Woods said with a proud smile. "It seems like he's always in the right place at the right time. Sometimes in practice, I have to tell him, `Hey, slow down, those are our teammates. We don't want to be hurting ourselves or our team.' I have to remind him to save it for a game."

Then again, Woods also likes the idea of opponents feeling fear when they roll through the Chiefs' secondary.

"It's very important that we have that reputation," Woods said. "If receivers know that you're going to knock the snot out of them, they'll be more careful about coming across the middle. That's all I heard in the offseason. People were like, `Man, you and Wes be stickin' those fools.' That's how we want people to think of us."[/quote]

keg in kc · 08-02-2001, 11:34 PM

[quote]"It's very important that we have that reputation," Woods said. "If receivers know that you're going to knock the snot out of them, they'll be more careful about coming across the middle. That's all I heard in the offseason. People were like, `Man, you and Wes be stickin' those fools.' That's how we want people to think of us[/quote]
[COLOR=crimson][b][SIZE=4]YES! YES! YES! YES! YES![/SIZE][/b][/COLOR]

Abba-Dabba · 08-02-2001, 11:48 PM

Last year I had some serious doubts about the safety position. After game 2 my fears were extinquished completely, G.Wesley was extremely undervalued coming into the draft and I would like to thank Gunther and Carl for finding this "diamond in the ruff". I remember during that draft when KC announced him as their choice everyone had this instant thought "Who the hell is Greg Wesley". Well now we know, everyone knows and there isn't any 4th year player or below on KC's squad that I have more confidence in than Greg Wesley

Gaz · 08-03-2001, 06:40 AM

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I [b]LIKE[/b] this article.

But here is the best part:

[quote]Robinson prefers to lock his corners into man-to-man coverage and use the safeties to blitz, cover and roam the secondary.[/quote]

Pass D the way it was meant to be.

Now, give me some crushed QBs and I will be a happy camper.

xoxo~
Gaz
Afterglowing.
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KCTitus · 08-03-2001, 06:50 AM

[i]The defense we ran last year was a lot more predictable.[/i]

Amen.

Warrior5 · 08-03-2001, 07:27 AM

is a post to start off the day, especially a Friday. Speaking of Friday, isn't next week the first [COLOR=red]Red Friday[/COLOR]?

I <B>love</B> this quote:

<I>People were like, `Man, you and Wes be stickin' those fools.' That's how we want people to think of us.</I>

**ExtremeChief** · 08-03-2001, 07:39 AM

[B][COLOR=red]XXXXCELLENT!!!!!![/COLOR][/B]

I can take the occasional cornerback getting burnt as long as we have people flying around knocking the $hit out of opponents...

gonna love seeing Wesley crushing a QB on a safety blitz...

chief mohawk · 08-03-2001, 08:11 AM

Early in the season last year( i think it was the titains game) i knew wesley was a special player and someone not afraid to put his head down on a big hit. there was times last year when i thought that wesley could honestiy kill someone on the field!:cool:

Alton deFlat · 08-03-2001, 08:15 AM

Wesley is quickly becoming one of my favorites. It's great to see his picture on the pocket schedule I picked up.

htismaqe · 08-03-2001, 09:18 AM

This is quite possibly the best article I've seen about the defense yet.

MAN TO MAN COVERAGE with HEADHUNTERS at safety!!!

The way it was meant to be...

Warrior5 · 08-03-2001, 09:25 AM

Forget who we had last year, but the objective updates we got were outstanding. Also gave us a chance to ask for specific things to look for.
For one, I've heard NOTHING on Jamar Threatts...not sure if that's an indication of unremarkable play or not.

Mark M · 08-03-2001, 09:26 AM

Sounds beautiful! :D The safeties are definitely the strength of the D.

Of course, with our corners, having free-roaming, hard-hitting safeties is going to be very, very important. Gotta feeling either Woods or Wesley will lead the team in tackles this year.

MM
~~Getting giddy.

BIG_DADDY · 08-03-2001, 09:46 AM

Wesley hits as hard as any safety I have ever seen. I remember one play last season ( I think it was the Titans ) where they had a guard pull to the outside. The only Chief there was Wesley. He hit the guard so hard he knocked him back into the running back and took both of them out. :eek: OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!

BIG DADDY

This kids going to be a lot a fun to watch this year.

lakeman · 08-03-2001, 11:10 AM

I saw it in the first game against the Colts! Remember James trying to turn the corner and ending up in the first row of seats! Yeahhh Baby!:p

**ptlyon** · 08-03-2001, 11:56 AM

I mean @()$*(*%. He was always a worthless )#(*, tugging on his big brothers shirt strings...

I mean for ()@# sakes how can he... AW! NEVER MIND.

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pt - just glad to hear it and hoping they can do it

08-02-2001, 10:22 PM
DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	Ahh, music to my ears: Out with Kurt's soft zone, in with the physical stuff... Nice article at the Star regarding our hard hitting safety duo... [url=http://www.kcstar.com/item/pages/sports.pat,sports/3accde0c.802,.html]Chiefs at ease with Woods and Wesley[/url] [quote]Robinson's early comfort level speaks volumes, because he's asking the safeties to do different things than former defensive coordinator Kurt Schottenheimer. Under Schottenheimer, the Chiefs primarily played soft zones, which called for Woods and Wesley to lie back in coverage and read what was happening in front of them. Robinson prefers to lock his corners into man-to-man coverage and use the safeties to blitz, cover and roam the secondary. Aside from the occasional blown coverage, which is understandable given the newness of the system, Woods and Wesley appear to be adjusting nicely. "It's a lot more complicated," Wesley said. "The defense we ran last year was a lot more predictable. This year, the safeties are involved in everything. Sometimes we're back, sometimes we're covering somebody, and sometimes we're up in the box to play the run. I like that. Now you never know where a guy is coming from, and I think it's going to be better for us because we have great athletes back there." So far, the changes haven't limited either player's thirst for contact. Wesley in particular has had to hold back from pounding his own players in practice. Although still relatively new to the position, having started only 22 games at Arkansas-Pine Bluff, where he was a walk-on, Wesley is a natural when it comes to contact. He could quickly earn mention with established NFL hitmen like Minnesota's Robert Griffith and Tampa Bay's John Lynch. "You could tell from the first day we put on pads that Greg is a hitter," Robinson said. Even when the Chiefs don full pads, practice etiquette calls for defensive players to hold up on contact. Yet there are times when it seems that Wesley almost can't help himself. "Yeah, that's Wes," Woods said with a proud smile. "It seems like he's always in the right place at the right time. Sometimes in practice, I have to tell him, `Hey, slow down, those are our teammates. We don't want to be hurting ourselves or our team.' I have to remind him to save it for a game." Then again, Woods also likes the idea of opponents feeling fear when they roll through the Chiefs' secondary. "It's very important that we have that reputation," Woods said. "If receivers know that you're going to knock the snot out of them, they'll be more careful about coming across the middle. That's all I heard in the offseason. People were like, `Man, you and Wes be stickin' those fools.' That's how we want people to think of us."[/quote]
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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	[quote]"It's very important that we have that reputation," Woods said. "If receivers know that you're going to knock the snot out of them, they'll be more careful about coming across the middle. That's all I heard in the offseason. People were like, `Man, you and Wes be stickin' those fools.' That's how we want people to think of us[/quote] [COLOR=crimson][b][SIZE=4]YES! YES! YES! YES! YES![/SIZE][/b][/COLOR]
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08-02-2001, 11:48 PM	#3
Abba-Dabba MVP Join Date: May 2001 Casino cash: $4502970	Last year I had some serious doubts about the safety position. After game 2 my fears were extinquished completely, G.Wesley was extremely undervalued coming into the draft and I would like to thank Gunther and Carl for finding this "diamond in the ruff". I remember during that draft when KC announced him as their choice everyone had this instant thought "Who the hell is Greg Wesley". Well now we know, everyone knows and there isn't any 4th year player or below on KC's squad that I have more confidence in than Greg Wesley
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08-03-2001, 06:40 AM	#4
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	Ahhhh..... [font=Garamond][size=4] I [b]LIKE[/b] this article. But here is the best part: [quote]Robinson prefers to lock his corners into man-to-man coverage and use the safeties to blitz, cover and roam the secondary.[/quote] Pass D the way it was meant to be. Now, give me some crushed QBs and I will be a happy camper. xoxo~ Gaz Afterglowing. [/font][/size]
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08-03-2001, 06:50 AM	#5
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08-03-2001, 07:27 AM	#6
Warrior5 Stram was Cav Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $9094010	This... is a post to start off the day, especially a Friday. Speaking of Friday, isn't next week the first [COLOR=red]Red Friday[/COLOR]? I <B>love</B> this quote: <I>People were like, `Man, you and Wes be stickin' those fools.' That's how we want people to think of us.</I> __________________ The best pass defense is attacking the passer.
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08-03-2001, 07:39 AM	#7
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08-03-2001, 08:11 AM	#8
chief mohawk Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $7914950	Early in the season last year( i think it was the titains game) i knew wesley was a special player and someone not afraid to put his head down on a big hit. there was times last year when i thought that wesley could honestiy kill someone on the field!:cool:
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08-03-2001, 08:15 AM	#9
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08-03-2001, 09:18 AM	#10
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	This is quite possibly the best article I've seen about the defense yet. MAN TO MAN COVERAGE with HEADHUNTERS at safety!!! The way it was meant to be...
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08-03-2001, 09:25 AM	#11
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08-03-2001, 09:26 AM	#12
Mark M What time is it? Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: You tell me ... Casino cash: $9884900	Sounds beautiful! :D The safeties are definitely the strength of the D. Of course, with our corners, having free-roaming, hard-hitting safeties is going to be very, very important. Gotta feeling either Woods or Wesley will lead the team in tackles this year. MM ~~Getting giddy. __________________ ChiefsPlanet -- n. The place where brilliant minds assemble to willfully pool ignorance with questionable logic in order to reach absurd conclusions.
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08-03-2001, 09:46 AM	#13
BIG_DADDY THE RED MENACE Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas Casino cash: $5018410	Wesley hits as hard as any safety I have ever seen. I remember one play last season ( I think it was the Titans ) where they had a guard pull to the outside. The only Chief there was Wesley. He hit the guard so hard he knocked him back into the running back and took both of them out. :eek: OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!! BIG DADDY This kids going to be a lot a fun to watch this year. __________________ The diabolical genius of Marxism-Socialism is that it provides the emotional and intellectual road map for autocrats to persuade millions of people to support their own enslavement to government. ~Mark Levin April 15, 2019
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