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Old 08-29-2012, 07:39 PM   #1
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It would be a toss up between Hulk and Supes.. Can go either way..

Now someone like Dr. Strange would kick the shit out of superman since he is weak to magic..
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:43 PM   #2
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It would be a toss up between Hulk and Supes.. Can go either way..

Now someone like Dr. Strange would kick the shit out of superman since he is weak to magic..
Supes would kick the shit out of the Hulk if he uses his speed
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:14 PM   #3
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It would be a toss up between Hulk and Supes.. Can go either way..

Now someone like Dr. Strange would kick the shit out of superman since he is weak to magic..
What would be a toss-up, a superhuman free-for-all? If we're talking that, remember Thor's hammer is magical as well, and I don't know that there's anyone in the Marvel Universe (short of all-powerful cosmic entities) that can take him out solo.
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Old 09-01-2012, 10:38 PM   #4
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It would be a toss up between Hulk and Supes.. Can go either way..

Now someone like Dr. Strange would kick the shit out of superman since he is weak to magic..
Superman is 2-0 vs Hulk.

No version of Hulk can beat Superman. Grey, green, red, savage, world war, maestro, etc
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:14 PM   #5
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How about an easy one. Franklin Richards vs Superman.
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Old 08-30-2012, 08:27 PM   #6
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How about an easy one. Franklin Richards vs Superman.
I don't know much about that guy but the stuff from Wikipedia, but can't that guy manipulate matter on the atomic level? Seems like that would be a bit unfair.

EDIT: Or maybe he's a reality warper? I'm not sure.
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Old 08-30-2012, 08:31 PM   #7
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I don't know much about that guy but the stuff from Wikipedia, but can't that guy manipulate matter on the atomic level? Seems like that would be a bit unfair.

EDIT: Or maybe he's a reality warper? I'm not sure.
yeah, completely unfair.. he can create or destroy entire universes.. so... he's got that going for him...
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:34 PM   #8
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It's OK, I'm sure there's a Marvel heavy hitter out there somewhere that Superman can take down, if you search hard enough. This is assuming that the contest isn't determined by who is the most compelling and interesting character, in which case Superman is, of course, doomed.
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Old 08-31-2012, 11:23 AM   #9
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I feel like DC characters are far more powerful than Marvel, but Marvel's character depth is better.

The Justice League would stomp the Avengers.
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Old 08-31-2012, 02:20 PM   #10
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I feel like DC characters are far more powerful than Marvel, but Marvel's character depth is better.

The Justice League would stomp the Avengers.
I don't see that at all.
For shits and giggles...

Let's put a starting lineup together for both JL and the A's.
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Old 08-31-2012, 11:48 AM   #11
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I feel like DC characters are far more powerful than Marvel, but Marvel's character depth is better.

The Justice League would stomp the Avengers.
Stomp, probably not. Beat, probably, if you use classic lineups. The front four of each group (Superman/Batman/Wonder Woman/Flash vs. Thor/Iron Man/Captain America/Hulk) would be about equal, but I highly doubt Wasp and Yellowjacket could hold their own against Aquaman and, more definitively, Green Lantern.

If you use current modern lineups, it gets a lot more one-sided. The Justice League has basically the same lineup except with the addition of Cyborg, but the only classical Avengers left are Captain America and Iron Man, with the rest of their ranks taken up by Hawkeye, Red Hulk, Vision, Spider-Woman, and Quake, who would get wiped by the Justice League veterans.

Now, if you add in all of the splinter groups, then the advantage swings back to Marvel, whose Secret Avengers and New Avengers include the likes of the Thing, Spider-Man, Wolverine, Doctor Strange, Venom, Iron Fist, Luke Cage; basically most of the Marvel Universe's heavy hitters. Justice League International and Justice League Dark's rosters, on the other hand, read like the minor leagues - Green Arrow, Booster Gold, Hawkman, Zatanna, and so on. Ka-pow.

So there you are. Also, I obviously have no life.
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Old 08-31-2012, 12:40 PM   #12
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Stomp, probably not. Beat, probably, if you use classic lineups. The front four of each group (Superman/Batman/Wonder Woman/Flash vs. Thor/Iron Man/Captain America/Hulk) would be about equal, but I highly doubt Wasp and Yellowjacket could hold their own against Aquaman and, more definitively, Green Lantern.
I think even with the top 4s the Justice League comes out on top pretty decisively. Superman takes Hulk into space as previously discussed, Flash moves at the speed of light and disassembles Iron Man's armor before Tony knows a fight is happening and probably has time left over to punch Captain America in the face 1000 times. Wonder Woman holds off Thor until he throws his hammer, at which point Flash redirects it to Wonder Woman's hand (she's lifted it before) and she gets Thor's powers on top of her own. Batman's taking a nap or something.
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Old 08-31-2012, 01:32 PM   #13
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Stomp, probably not. Beat, probably, if you use classic lineups. The front four of each group (Superman/Batman/Wonder Woman/Flash vs. Thor/Iron Man/Captain America/Hulk) would be about equal, but I highly doubt Wasp and Yellowjacket could hold their own against Aquaman and, more definitively, Green Lantern.
Well that's why it would be a stomp. I'd imagine it would go down with Supes vs. Hulk, WW vs. Thor, Flash vs. Iron Man and Batman vs Cap. Flash would rape Iron Man but other than that those would all be good fights. Then it comes to Aquaman and Green Lantern vs those two chumps. It would get messy real quick once Flash, Aquaman and GL joined in and started pounding on Hulk and Thor.

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All of these guys, with the exception of Strange and maybe Thing, would be useless. Honestly, take out Strange and add all those guys you just named; give the JL Martian Manhunter and the JL would annihilate the Marvel side.

Just my opinion.
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Old 08-31-2012, 02:06 PM   #14
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Oh, no. Superman wouldn't match up with Hulk; he'd match up with Thor, who would instantly overpower anyone else in the JLA, and he'd be lucky to get a tie. (Thor is a lot more powerful in the comic books than he is in the movies, and he's magical, which would give Superman a big problem.)

Batman and Captain America are as evenly matched as any two are, and so basically negate each other. Flash would not beat Iron Man very easily but I could see him winning eventually, but then you've got Hulk vs. Wonder Woman. Either way, there's still the Green Lantern problem, so yeah. Poor, poor, tiny insect-themed Avengers.

And Martian Manhunter's not in the JLA right now. He would make a big difference, but if you open it up to past (or future) members, then it just gets a lot messier.

I can't believe I'm arguing this. Hello again, teenage years, how've you been?
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Old 08-31-2012, 03:37 PM   #15
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Oh, no. Superman wouldn't match up with Hulk; he'd match up with Thor, who would instantly overpower anyone else in the JLA, and he'd be lucky to get a tie. (Thor is a lot more powerful in the comic books than he is in the movies, and he's magical, which would give Superman a big problem.)

Batman and Captain America are as evenly matched as any two are, and so basically negate each other. Flash would not beat Iron Man very easily but I could see him winning eventually, but then you've got Hulk vs. Wonder Woman. Either way, there's still the Green Lantern problem, so yeah. Poor, poor, tiny insect-themed Avengers.

And Martian Manhunter's not in the JLA right now. He would make a big difference, but if you open it up to past (or future) members, then it just gets a lot messier.

I can't believe I'm arguing this. Hello again, teenage years, how've you been?
Wonder Woman is a lot stronger than you think, not up to Hulk standards, but certainly up to Thor. I could also see JLA using Flash to wear down the Hulk. He certainly wouldn't be able to hurt him. As you say, Green Lantern is a match up problem for the Avengers.
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