There needs to be a Pioli Zombie Invasion

[Fat Elvis]

Oh for the days of non-violent protests.

You know, Clark doesn't give a diddly about the fan. His money comes from TV revenues. Everyone knows it.

What happens if the fans disrupt the game--non-violently--with a Pioli Zombie Invasion before kickoff?

It is a Gandhi-esque tactic. Hit your oppressor in the pocket-book.

If you have several hundred or a couple thousand Pioli Zombies invade the field before kickoff, it stops the game--and the broadcast of the game. Have the zombies just lay on the field. Police would have to drag them off.

Do you think that is an image that the NFL wants to project to the rest of the world? A fun, family-friendly activity is turned into a police action? Not on your life.

Unfortunately, I don't think anyone really has the nads to do this.

It is the perfect metaphor, however, Clark and Pioli are killing this storied franchise and the "dead" (or undead) fans on the field are proof.

I hate to break it to you, but banners before a game aren't going to accomplish a single thing. If Clark isn't going to listen you , you have to make the message louder.

[Ace Gunner]

funny but meaningless. really, ppl can read. banners & news about banner ppl. and JW fueling nat'l attn. it's already got Pioli scrambling for the spin handle.

[Gonzo]

Originally Posted by Lou_Zare

funny but meaningless. really, ppl can read. banners & news about banner ppl. and JW fueling nat'l attn. it's already got Pioli scrambling for the spin handle.

I'm not going to pay attention to you because you're too lazy to type an "e" and an "o" in the word people. It really shows me that you're not committed enough to the cause, sir.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by PGM

Naked Zombie Midgets. Clark would be forced to make a change right then and there.

Truth be told, I'd prefer naked zombie midgets to most of anything.

[HemiEd]

Someone was drunk early.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by qabbaan

A whole bunch of idiots getting arrested isn't going to help the movement.

You're delusional if you believe there is a "movement." Flying a banner over Arrowhead before a game doesn't constitute a "movement." All you have right now is a little bitchfest that no one outside of KC really knows about or gives two shits about. For all intents and purposes, the fans and thier message are still invisible. You're not going to get any change until you put some skin in the game--and I hate to tell you, but $20 isn't going to cut it.

Look, I'm not one to participate in a Pioli Zombie Invasion because I really don't care one way or another. I'm not going to spend any money to buy a ticket to go to the game.

For those of you who think this is a "movement," just don't be surprised when, in April, Scott Pioli drafts Glen Dorsey's replacement with the Chiefs first round pick.

[DMAC]

When Cassel trots out, everyone storm the field and just don't let them play.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by DMAC

When Cassel trots out, everyone storm the field and just don't let them play.

I don't want to kill the guy. Based on past experience, every time someone runs at him he drops and goes into the fetal position. He'll get trampled.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

You're delusional if you believe there is a "movement." Flying a banner over Arrowhead before a game doesn't constitute a "movement." All you have right now is a little bitchfest that no one outside of KC really knows about or gives two shits about. For all intents and purposes, the fans and thier message are still invisible. You're not going to get any change until you put some skin in the game--and I hate to tell you, but $20 isn't going to cut it.

Look, I'm not one to participate in a Pioli Zombie Invasion because I really don't care one way or another. I'm not going to spend any money to buy a ticket to go to the game.

For those of you who think this is a "movement," just don't be surprised when, in April, Scott Pioli drafts Glen Dorsey's replacement with the Chiefs first round pick.

I don't know, Mr. Fat Elvis ... there are a crap load of "followers" on that tweeter place that sound just like Mr. htismaqe after trying the punch at the Lucrezia Borgia Home For Re-Wed Mothers open house.

A lot of people are down with the "Sea of Black" idea and many have donated money. I'd say it's a movement ... or, at least, it is movement in the right direction. My guess would be that 75% of the fan base is what you would call fed up with Pioligo.

But we can be certain that nothing will change if we fold our tent now. We need to keep the pressure on and not lose what momentum that's been created.

FAX

[HemiEd]

I see it as a movement and think it will get some of the desired results as long as things stay classy.

Creating a situation where Pioli can deflect and vilify the fans in Clark's eyes is the scenario that needs to be avoided at all cost IMO.

Some degree of finesse should be exhibited to avoid putting Clark into a position of appearing to lose control of the decision making.

[Dave Lane]

I disagree. This amount of attention and going to this great lengths would have coverage non stop on every talk show and even the mainstream non-sports related media.

Not a chance Pioli survives that. That said I think its probably better left undone.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by FAX

there are a crap load of "followers" on that tweeter place that sound just like Mr. htismaqe after trying the punch at the Lucrezia Borgia Home For Re-Wed Mothers open house.

WTF?

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

WTF?

Way too early to break that $3it down...

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by Gonzo

I'm not going to pay attention to you because you're too lazy to type an "e" and an "o" in the word people. It really shows me that you're not committed enough to the cause, sir.

gosh. I was close. real close. If I were to do those things you said, do you think maybe I should perhaps add a second 'e' also

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by FAX

I don't know, Mr. Fat Elvis ... there are a crap load of "followers" on that tweeter place that sound just like Mr. htismaqe after trying the punch at the Lucrezia Borgia Home For Re-Wed Mothers open house.

A lot of people are down with the "Sea of Black" idea and many have donated money. I'd say it's a movement ... or, at least, it is movement in the right direction. My guess would be that 75% of the fan base is what you would call fed up with Pioligo.

But we can be certain that nothing will change if we fold our tent now. We need to keep the pressure on and not lose what momentum that's been created.

FAX

Here's the problem, Mr. Fax: You can't on one hand chastize Eric Winston for calling out 60-70K fans when only a few hundred or couple thousand fans cheered when Cassel went down/Quinn came in. You're boohooing the notion that the few represented the whole and then at the same time claim that 116 fans donating what amounts to a couple of beers and a hot dog at Arrowhead somehow represents the sentiments of the whole of Chiefs nation.

Sure some folks will wear black to the game, but guess what--it is the Raiders game. What do you think the perception will be? Hey, it looks like the Raiders fans came out in force today. That is what it will look like on TV, anyway. Do you think Clark will care one way or another?

In terms of the twitter thing, people may be upset with the management, but take a look at any other team fairing poorly: Fans go online and bitch about the team, the coach, and the management. It is nothing new. Online bitchfests don't constitute a movement.

Clark is first and foremost a dispassionate number cruncher--and right now, the true numbers aren't in the favor of folks who would like to believe that this is some sort of "movement." People would like to believe that it is a movement and somehow getting really red in the face and giving Pioli the stinkeye through their computer monitor is actually going to change things because of their emotional investment in the Chiefs.

Movements, however, are calculations. Calculations such as the number of people involved, calculations in how far the people involved are willing to go to affect change, calculations of the risk/reward in simply acknowledging the petitions of the people let alone cave in to their demands. If you are Clark Hunt, what do you think speaks louder- 31 fellow billionaires or 116 people who are literally tossing $28.95 in the air? Like it or not, the numbers just aren't adding up. Clark gets this-fans don't.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

Here's the problem, Mr. Fax: You can't on one hand chastize Eric Winston for calling out 60-70K fans when only a few hundred or couple thousand fans cheered when Cassel went down/Quinn came in. You're boohooing the notion that the few represented the whole and then at the same time claim that 116 fans donating what amounts to a couple of beers and a hot dog at Arrowhead somehow represents the sentiments of the whole of Chiefs nation.

Sure some folks will wear black to the game, but guess what--it is the Raiders game. What do you think the perception will be? Hey, it looks like the Raiders fans came out in force today. That is what it will look like on TV, anyway. Do you think Clark will care one way or another?

In terms of the twitter thing, people may be upset with the management, but take a look at any other team fairing poorly: Fans go online and bitch about the team, the coach, and the management. It is nothing new. Online bitchfests don't constitute a movement.

Clark is first and foremost a dispassionate number cruncher--and right now, the true numbers aren't in the favor of folks who would like to believe that this is some sort of "movement." People would like to believe that it is a movement and somehow getting really red in the face and giving Pioli the stinkeye through their computer monitor is actually going to change things because of their emotional investment in the Chiefs.

Movements, however, are calculations. Calculations such as the number of people involved, calculations in how far the people involved are willing to go to affect change, calculations of the risk/reward in simply acknowledging the petitions of the people let alone cave in to their demands. If you are Clark Hunt, what do you think speaks louder- 31 fellow billionaires or 116 people who are literally tossing $28.95 in the air? Like it or not, the numbers just aren't adding up. Clark gets this-fans don't.

You butt hurt because your idea is reeruned? Its during the Bengals game BTW.