Chiefs Different way of Looking at the SB and Brady

synthesis2 · 05:27 PM

Look I'm ok with getting roasted for this take and I'm cool with it but a few things I had to put into perspective with the game.

1) Lets say you just switch QB's for that game and everything else is the same. What is the score? Bucs 49 Chiefs 0? or 3? Brady did nothing great, just did what he needed to do and their running game was very good and they won. Brady won the game but it wasn't because he was amazing at what he did, just managed enough and we sucked enough ( plus the fun calls from the refs) to not win.

2) Brady because of his Hardware is considered the GOAT by most but I still struggle to see what he does that is so amazing? I mean he is competitive, almost a competitive prick which is good, you could say he is a good leader, but watching him play football is just like watching snow melt, he NEVER does anything that makes your jaw drop. In NE he has been apart of a team that had amazing defenses and last night was the same.

You could have put about 20 QB's on Tampa's team last night and won the game if we only score 9 points, Brady was just one of many that would have won that game.

Brady is a good QB but not amazing, nothing about him screams greatness except his rings and that may be enough for most people. For me it wasn't even close, the MVP was the Buc's Defensive line and it wasn't even close.

For me Jordan is the best ever but if it was just rings alone then Bill Russell is the best.

I give Brady his due much a lot of his "greatness" comes from being on the right team at the right time.

**Rain Man** · 02-08-2021, 05:17 PM

It helps when the line judge names her kid after you.

"Bob" Dobbs · 02-08-2021, 05:18 PM

I can't disagree with this at all.

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Prison Bitch · 02-08-2021, 05:22 PM

You could have put about 20 QB's on Tampa's team last night and won the game if we only score 9 points,

How many of them win games back-to-back in New Orleans and GB to get there, like he did.

**New World Order** · 02-08-2021, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

You could have put about 20 QB's on Tampa's team last night and won the game if we only score 9 points,

How many of them win games back-to-back in New Orleans and GB to get there, like he did.

Eli Manning and Trent Dilfer did it

gold_and_red · 02-08-2021, 05:25 PM

GOAT has become synonymous with "most accomplished" in the ultimate team sport. He has the longevity aspect going for him in a sport that is hopeless for 40 year olds. Media likes to spin team accomplishments as QB driven. But it is impressive that he happens to be the QB of four SB winning teams in the last seven years.

MAG · 02-08-2021, 05:26 PM

He played a disastrous second half against GB with 3 INTs and got bailed out by his defense too. He's truly one of the luckiest humans in history. It is why I was one of the few Chiefs fans to pick TB to win this game. There's a magic sort of devilish luck that surrounds that guy that I wanted no part of facing.

Why Not? · 02-08-2021, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

It helps when the line judge names her kid after you.

Thought you were kidding until I looked it up. I swear Black Ops should be elected to be Mayor of something.

ClevelandBronco · 02-08-2021, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by synthesis2

Look I'm ok with getting roasted for this take and I'm cool with it but a few things I had to put into perspective with the game.

1) Lets say you just switch QB's for that game and everything else is the same. What is the score? Bucs 49 Chiefs 0? or 3? Brady did nothing great, just did what he needed to do and their running game was very good and they won. Brady won the game but it wasn't because he was amazing at what he did, just managed enough and we sucked enough ( plus the fun calls from the refs) to not win.

2) Brady because of his Hardware is considered the GOAT by most but I still struggle to see what he does that is so amazing? I mean he is competitive, almost a competitive prick which is good, you could say he is a good leader, but watching him play football is just like watching snow melt, he NEVER does anything that makes your jaw drop. In NE he has been apart of a team that had amazing defenses and last night was the same.

You could have put about 20 QB's on Tampa's team last night and won the game if we only score 9 points, Brady was just one of many that would have won that game.

Brady is a good QB but not amazing, nothing about him screams greatness except his rings and that may be enough for most people. For me it wasn't even close, the MVP was the Buc's Defensive line and it wasn't even close.

For me Jordan is the best even but if it was just rings alone then Bill Russell is the best and its not even close.

I give Brady his due much a lot of his "greatness" comes from being on the right team at the right time.

I get the thought experiment, but let's agree that Brady wouldn't play for Fat Andy very long at all before he would demand that Reid be fired.

synthesis2 · 02-08-2021, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

You could have put about 20 QB's on Tampa's team last night and won the game if we only score 9 points,

How many of them win games back-to-back in New Orleans and GB to get there, like he did.

I'm talking about last night. He played fine but nothing amazing, just took what was given to him from officials and his O-Line.

Again I think 20 QB last night in the exact same situation would have won. We scored 9 points.... I get our receivers dropped passes and our O-Line was worse than bad but he didn't do anything last night that would scream MVP, their D-Line dominated... period.

synthesis2 · 02-08-2021, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gold_and_red

GOAT has become synonymous with "most accomplished" in the ultimate team sport. He has the longevity aspect going for him in a sport that is hopeless for 40 year olds. Media likes to spin team accomplishments as QB driven. But it is impressive that he happens to be the QB of four SB winning teams in the last seven years.

Right so Bill Russell is the best NBA player ever?

Gary Cooper · 02-08-2021, 05:44 PM

He's definitely the most successful QB in history. A combination of greatness and longevity. As well as the desire to keep playing. And yes, being in the right place helps. You don't win 7 Super Bowls by yourself. Football is the hardest sport to do that. There's over 50 men dressed for every game.

Is he the best QB I've ever seen? No. He's not even top 3. But if I'm starting a franchise, you can't do much better than a QB who will play 20 years for you at a high level.

GoChargers · 02-08-2021, 05:45 PM

Brady isn't that impressive. I grew up loving the gunslingers like Favre, Marino and Moon. I'm also a huge fan of the new era of QBs, the Rodgers/Mahomes/Allen types. It's hard to watch ANY of those guys and still be impressed by Brady's Alex Smith-esque dinks and dunks. It's even less impressive when you factor in the cheating and the officiating.

I always hated Peyton for the ref help he got on stacked teams. Brady is no better. The media acts like he's LeBron when he's really a Steve Nash at best.

synthesis2 · 02-08-2021, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers

Brady isn't that impressive. I grew up loving the gunslingers like Favre, Marino and Moon. I'm also a huge fan of the new era of QBs, the Rodgers/Mahomes/Allen types. It's hard to watch ANY of those guys and still be impressed by Brady's Alex Smith-esque dinks and dunks. It's even less impressive when you factor in the cheating and the officiating.

I always hated Peyton for the ref help he got on stacked teams. Brady is no better. The media acts like he's LeBron when he's really a Steve Nash at best.

Steve Nash is probably a good comparison. I think the only thing he is " Elite" at is his desire to be the best ae win Superbowls and not just say it to say it but to really want it bad.

His physical tools are very average and its hard to think back to the 50 plus games I've seen him play where I was blown away thinking, " this guy is one of the best ever" . He just kinda gives you the feeling like he is on a good team and just helps it along.

If I started a team right now with any QB to pick when they started their career I think Brady would be in the 20-25 range ranking from 1-50 all time.

Brady is a 85-89% QB, a solid B+ but he has never been nor will ever be elite.

I know you can say this about any QB but if he was drafted by the Bungels or the Lions, or Browns etc he would of been out of the league a LONG time ago.

Brady is good but he was not the True MVP nor the GOAT, if anything he is just the GOAT of superbowl rings but not of ability.

Kman34 · 02-08-2021, 06:21 PM

**** Tom Brady... I’m still pissed...

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synthesis2 synthesis2 Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $9335401	Different way of Looking at the SB and Brady Look I'm ok with getting roasted for this take and I'm cool with it but a few things I had to put into perspective with the game. 1) Lets say you just switch QB's for that game and everything else is the same. What is the score? Bucs 49 Chiefs 0? or 3? Brady did nothing great, just did what he needed to do and their running game was very good and they won. Brady won the game but it wasn't because he was amazing at what he did, just managed enough and we sucked enough ( plus the fun calls from the refs) to not win. 2) Brady because of his Hardware is considered the GOAT by most but I still struggle to see what he does that is so amazing? I mean he is competitive, almost a competitive prick which is good, you could say he is a good leader, but watching him play football is just like watching snow melt, he NEVER does anything that makes your jaw drop. In NE he has been apart of a team that had amazing defenses and last night was the same. You could have put about 20 QB's on Tampa's team last night and won the game if we only score 9 points, Brady was just one of many that would have won that game. Brady is a good QB but not amazing, nothing about him screams greatness except his rings and that may be enough for most people. For me it wasn't even close, the MVP was the Buc's Defensive line and it wasn't even close. For me Jordan is the best ever but if it was just rings alone then Bill Russell is the best. I give Brady his due much a lot of his "greatness" comes from being on the right team at the right time. Last edited by synthesis2; 02-08-2021 at 05:27 PM..
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