Chiefs Should we have picked up Michael Vick? - Page 3

BIG_DADDY · 08-14-2010, 12:57 AM

I said a long time ago that this would have been a low risk/high reward scenaio for us especially considering the condition of our O line.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-14-2010, 10:12 AM

We are pot committed to Matt Cassell, which is funny, because if he were a poker hand, it would have played out like this:

We had a sizable number of chips and the blinds were manageable. We were also in late position.

Someone raises 6* the BB at UTG+1.

Someone else re-raises. from middle position.

We call, holding 10-8 offsuit. We don't raise or fold, we just call.

The flop comes down AKK.

There is a bet and then a raise. We don't fold or raise, we just call. The original better folds.

Next card is a J.

Guy bets out 1/6 of our stack. We call on the inside straight draw. No raise or fold.

River card is an 8.

Original better bets out 1/2 of our remaining stack. Rather than fold, we decide to raise. He calls before we can push our chips in, holding pocket cowboys.

We lament the bad luck with our eights and kings, never realizing that we were completely ****ed from the moment we entered the hand.

Warning signs were everywhere, but we chose to get cute, and we ****ed away our entire stack because we couldn't get off of a bad investment despite multiple opportunities to do so without crippling ourselves in the process.

**notorious** · 08-14-2010, 10:16 AM

Blackjack

We max bet at a COLD table.

We get a 2 and a 4 while the dealer (Pats) is showing a face.

We double down on our "6" only to get a 3.

Dealer shakes her head while she flips over the hidden face card.

Everybody at the table looks at us like we are ****ing reeruned, except for Denver. They thought we played a hell of a hand.

Demonpenz · 08-14-2010, 10:17 AM

Vince Young is a 2 time pro bowler

milkman · 08-14-2010, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

why not

3 shitty QBs is better than 2 shitty QBs

Got that covered with Palko.

BIG_DADDY · 08-14-2010, 10:32 AM

A lot of what you guys are saying is true, he was massively overrated and is a RB who can throw playing the QB position and not a real QB. To me though the guy cost almost nothing and could be benficial when our our O line struggles for reasons that should be self-evident. I would feel differently if I thought out O-line would be crushing defenders anytime soon.

CoMoChief · 08-14-2010, 10:39 AM

How about that throw Cassel made when he overthrew a 6'8 Leonard Pope by a ****in mile??? JFC

**notorious** · 08-14-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

How about that throw Cassel made when he overthrew a 6'8 Leonard Pope by a ****in mile??? JFC

How about we throw Leonard Pope under the bus when Croyle hit him in the ****ing chest at the 2 yard line???

Just kidding. That was one moment last night when I actually got pissed.

CoMoChief · 08-14-2010, 11:09 AM

**** it lets sign Jeff George.

CoMoChief · 08-14-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

How about we throw Leonard Pope under the bus when Croyle hit him in the ****ing chest at the 2 yard line???

Just kidding. That was one moment last night when I actually got pissed.

Yeah that was a pissed off moment for me as well.

**alnorth** · 08-14-2010, 11:46 AM

Vick could have been had for a song. What were we afraid of, bad press? Disgruntled fans calling in to gripe to the 2 or 3 competing KC sports radio shows?

If we start winning no one will care. If we dont start winning, no one will even remember 3 or 4 years from now. Football is a business, and as a fan I want my team to do whatever they can, within the rules, to get better. Who cares if he might not make the starting team, he'd be a hell of a backup or trick play specialist.

Thig Lyfe · 08-14-2010, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious

Blackjack

We max bet at a COLD table.

We get a 2 and a 4 while the dealer (Pats) is showing a face.

We double down on our "6" only to get a 3.

Dealer shakes her head while she flips over the hidden face card.

Everybody at the table looks at us like we are ****ing reeruned, except for Denver. They thought we played a hell of a hand.

Dogfighting

We go to the New England kennel hoping to buy a vicious pitbull.

All we can afford is a kitten.

The kitten accidentally strangles itself with a seat belt on the drive to the dogfight.

Red Brooklyn · 08-14-2010, 12:30 PM

Not sure our running game is going to be the #1 problem this year. Vick does nothing to help the passing game. Honestly, between Cassel, Croyle and Vick... Croyle probably looked the most promising in his respective game.

BIG_DADDY · 08-14-2010, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

Vick could have been had for a song. What were we afraid of, bad press? Disgruntled fans calling in to gripe to the 2 or 3 competing KC sports radio shows?

If we start winning no one will care. If we dont start winning, no one will even remember 3 or 4 years from now. Football is a business, and as a fan I want my team to do whatever they can, within the rules, to get better. Who cares if he might not make the starting team, he'd be a hell of a backup or trick play specialist.

And a great fill in for those teams we face this year that whose rush we won't be able to deal with and you KNOW that's gonna happen. The way the O line is playing right now the Raiders games this year could get ugly, remember I said that. Imagine using Vick and McCluster on some trick plays, talk about speed. I gotta wonder with the potential uses for Vick on our team for the price of a sack lunch how different the numbers would be had he not been involved in dog fighting? I'm guessing they would be significantly different.

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08-14-2010, 12:57 AM
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08-14-2010, 10:12 AM	#31
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	We are pot committed to Matt Cassell, which is funny, because if he were a poker hand, it would have played out like this: We had a sizable number of chips and the blinds were manageable. We were also in late position. Someone raises 6* the BB at UTG+1. Someone else re-raises. from middle position. We call, holding 10-8 offsuit. We don't raise or fold, we just call. The flop comes down AKK. There is a bet and then a raise. We don't fold or raise, we just call. The original better folds. Next card is a J. Guy bets out 1/6 of our stack. We call on the inside straight draw. No raise or fold. River card is an 8. Original better bets out 1/2 of our remaining stack. Rather than fold, we decide to raise. He calls before we can push our chips in, holding pocket cowboys. We lament the bad luck with our eights and kings, never realizing that we were completely **ed from the moment we entered the hand. Warning signs were everywhere, but we chose to get cute, and we **ed away our entire stack because we couldn't get off of a bad investment despite multiple opportunities to do so without crippling ourselves in the process. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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08-14-2010, 10:16 AM	#32
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08-14-2010, 10:32 AM	#35
BIG_DADDY THE RED MENACE Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas Casino cash: $5048410	A lot of what you guys are saying is true, he was massively overrated and is a RB who can throw playing the QB position and not a real QB. To me though the guy cost almost nothing and could be benficial when our our O line struggles for reasons that should be self-evident. I would feel differently if I thought out O-line would be crushing defenders anytime soon. __________________ The diabolical genius of Marxism-Socialism is that it provides the emotional and intellectual road map for autocrats to persuade millions of people to support their own enslavement to government. ~Mark Levin April 15, 2019
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08-14-2010, 10:39 AM	#36
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8052254	How about that throw Cassel made when he overthrew a 6'8 Leonard Pope by a ****in mile??? JFC
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08-14-2010, 11:09 AM	#38
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8052254	**** it lets sign Jeff George.
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08-14-2010, 11:46 AM	#40
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57166239	Vick could have been had for a song. What were we afraid of, bad press? Disgruntled fans calling in to gripe to the 2 or 3 competing KC sports radio shows? If we start winning no one will care. If we dont start winning, no one will even remember 3 or 4 years from now. Football is a business, and as a fan I want my team to do whatever they can, within the rules, to get better. Who cares if he might not make the starting team, he'd be a hell of a backup or trick play specialist. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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08-14-2010, 12:30 PM	#42
Red Brooklyn Veteran Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY Casino cash: $8121398	Not sure our running game is going to be the #1 problem this year. Vick does nothing to help the passing game. Honestly, between Cassel, Croyle and Vick... Croyle probably looked the most promising in his respective game.
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