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Old 05-05-2014, 10:25 AM  
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Old 05-28-2014, 11:17 AM   #871
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The drop in QB play will be significant and the team will win fewer games. But hey we saves money!
How significant? Again, look what Reid did with feeley and the such.
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Old 05-28-2014, 11:18 AM   #872
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You keep using cutler as if that's a good example.
It doesn't matter whether you think it's a good example or not. It happened and now every QB is using it as leverage.

It sucks but there is nothing we can do.
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Old 05-28-2014, 11:18 AM   #873
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He's not just a guy, no. But he's a guy that can be replaced with a much cheaper contract player who perhaps brings less to the table, but by having less money in the position it allows the surrounding team to be better
Oh really like who?
Has any of these cheaper players won or been in the playoffs, playing?

You are right he is not just a guy, nor is he a guy that can carry a substandard team to victories.
IMO Alex is as low a quality QB as you could possibly win a SB with. Of course he would have to be surrounded by plenty of talent. If we pay him 18 mil a year we will not be able to surround him with very much talent. Leading us to fall short of the goal.
I don't see how we could bring in a worse QB than Smith and expect to ever even be able to win a playoff game without some type of miracle, we all know God hates the Chiefs.
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Old 05-28-2014, 11:18 AM   #874
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I don't think that refusing to negotiate with players on contracts is going to take us to the top of the league.
And overpaying for a mediocre QB is?
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It doesn't matter whether you think it's a good example or not. It happened and now every QB is using it as leverage.

It sucks but there is nothing we can do.
So every dl can use haynesworth in the same way?

No.

If that's what they wanna do, play it out this year, franchise him while you groom the next guy.
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Old 05-28-2014, 11:21 AM   #876
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Oh really like who?
Has any of these cheaper players won or been in the playoffs, playing?

You are right he is not just a guy, nor is he a guy that can carry a substandard team to victories.
IMO Alex is as low a quality QB as you could possibly win a SB with. Of course he would have to be surrounded by plenty of talent. If we pay him 18 mil a year we will not be able to surround him with very much talent. Leading us to fall short of the goal.
I don't see how we could bring in a worse QB than Smith and expect to ever even be able to win a playoff game without some type of miracle, we all know God hates the Chiefs.
Well, how cheap are rookie QBs now? Look at Russell Wilson. Look around the league.
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So every dl can use haynesworth in the same way?

No.

If that's what they wanna do, play it out this year, franchise him while you groom the next guy.
You bet your ass they are using Haynesworth as an example. It's money. It's a lot of players first big paycheck. They are going to do whatever they can to get as much as possible.
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Apparently smiths wife is refuting all this on twitter
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Having said that, I don't want to give Alex $18 million.
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Don't care about competing for Alex Smith.

He's a "take it or leave it." Not a "what will make you stay?"
I don't think Reid shares this view of Smith with you. If he did, I don't think he would have lobbied Dorsey to give up two 2nd's for him.
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What reason does Alex Smith have to sign an extension this offseason, now that the draft and free agency have passed and the Chiefs realistically have no other options?
Alex has to know he is one hit away from being a backup or out of the league. With the OL we have in front of him as of right now he might be running for his life all season. The wrong hit and he gets nothing other than the Curly Bill.
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I don't understand why we'd pay top end money for a franchise QB and then not only do nothing to support him but allow the offense to deteriorate around him...
Good point. I guess that means Reid and Dorsey feel like they've got what they need - in house - to get it done... or, they won't pay him "top end money".
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Well, how cheap are rookie QBs now? Look at Russell Wilson. Look around the league.
Russell Wilson is a bad example.
We have rookie QBs on the squad now. I take it you don't want to win or want to suffer through a couple of really bad seasons that would get the HC and or GM fired. Don't think that is their plan AT ALL. Next year we might see them go with Murray and tell Smith bye if Murray looks the part.
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Russell Wilson is a bad example.
We have rookie QBs on the squad now. I take it you don't want to win or want to suffer through a couple of really bad seasons that would get the HC and or GM fired. Don't think that is their plan AT ALL. Next year we might see them go with Murray and tell Smith bye if Murray looks the part.
For the thousandth time, look at Reid's history with QBs. It can't go both ways.

"He's a QB whisperer will get all he can out of smith" then "we will lose a lot with a rookie QB cause he's a rookie"
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