Chiefs Sleeper HC candidate - Page 4

Hammock Parties · 12-09-2012, 06:09 PM

If Arizona makes the mistake of firing Ken Whisenhunt, would he be a good guy to hire?

I wouldn't judge anyone on anything that happened in Arizona.

tk13 · 12-09-2012, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

Look, Peyton is a whole different beast.

I could be the "head coach" of Denver and we'd be 10-3. Peyton made Dungy a "hall of fame" coach and Dungy was terrible IMHO.

I never would call him Bill Walsh... but the Buccaneers had 2 complete decades of total failure before Dungy got there. He's certainly not terrible. There's probably hundreds of coaches you could rank below him.

milkman · 12-09-2012, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

Here's what I'd do as the head coach of Peyton.

"Welp, ok...Peyton you go out there and run the offense...let me know if you need anything!"

Welp! Now I'm a hall of fame coach!

He went to a SB with Jake Delhomme at QB.

He went to the playoffs last year with Tim TeBow at QB.

These Donkeys are one of only two teams with a top 10 offense and top 10 defense.

Manning is, without question, making his job easier, but Fox is a hell of a coach.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-09-2012, 07:01 PM

Wiz with Warner, Boldin, Breaston, and Fitz was a pretty good combination IIRC...

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 12-09-2012, 07:02 PM

I like Bruce Arians.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-09-2012, 07:02 PM

19 of the past 23 years, we've had a retread head coach. Let's try something new.

I still want to go with a young, under-the-radar guy, especially if we're not able to land some of the top guys on our list like Chip Kelly or David Shaw. And I don't want the candidate who's sexy only because he's great with X's and O's.

Pick a guy who, even if he doesn't have a flashy X's and O's track record, has a great reputation for being well respected in the locker room, especially from a disciplinary standpoint.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-09-2012, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

He went to a SB with Jake Delhomme at QB.

He went to the playoffs last year with Tim TeBow at QB.

These Donkeys are one of only two teams with a top 10 offense and top 10 defense.

Manning is, without question, making his job easier, but Fox is a hell of a coach.

Yep, Fox is, unfortunately, not a complete bag o' peeholi...

chiefzilla1501 · 12-09-2012, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I like Bruce Arians.

Bruce Arians is overrated, even as a Coordinator. Any Steelers' fan will tell you that. The only reason he kept his job was because Big Ben lobbied for him.

Hootie · 12-09-2012, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

He went to a SB with Jake Delhomme at QB.

He went to the playoffs last year with Tim TeBow at QB.

These Donkeys are one of only two teams with a top 10 offense and top 10 defense.

Manning is, without question, making his job easier, but Fox is a hell of a coach.

Yeah, perhaps.

I'm not a fan. I don't like defensive minded head coaches. I'm stubborn.

All I'm saying is...Manning by himself, regardless of coach, is worth 10 wins.

Hootie · 12-09-2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Bruce Arians is overrated, even as a Coordinator. Any Steelers' fan will tell you that. The only reason he kept his job was because Big Ben lobbied for him.

Ok well, not sure about this.

The Colts are 9-4. He has to get some credit for this.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 12-09-2012, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Bruce Arians is overrated, even as a Coordinator. Any Steelers' fan will tell you that. The only reason he kept his job was because Big Ben lobbied for him.

He's doing just fine in Indy as well. He's never been a head coach, and discipline will not be an issue. Oh, and he's a Steelers way guy. Clark would love him. I could see him and Polian in KC within the next couple of months. I don't think I'd cry and I'm not a fan of Polian.

tk13 · 12-09-2012, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

Ok well, not sure about this.

The Colts are 9-4. He has to get some credit for this.

He does... but that team is also playing for Pagano too. Really impossible to say what would happen if this wasn't the situation.

**The Bad Guy** · 12-09-2012, 07:07 PM

ChiefZilla still beating the hilarious "Arians is overrated" tripe.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 12-09-2012, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

He does... but that team is also playing for Pagano too. Really impossible to say what would happen if this wasn't the situation.

That's all conjecture. The numbers indicate he's pretty good.

Hootie · 12-09-2012, 07:08 PM

I think it's quite clear...

It doesn't matter if you're Lombardi or Belichick...

if you don't have a franchise QB, you're just going to be ****ed...one way or the other

Arians = franchise QB
Fox = franchise QB
Whisenhunt = Ryan Lindley/John Skelton

who ****ing knows

I think the most important thing to any football franchise...it's not owner, it's not GM, it's not coach...it's not LT, RT or DT

it's a god damn elite QB

-King- · 12-09-2012, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

Meh.

Just my personal opinion. I may be wrong. I think Mike Shanahan is a great coach and I have no reason to think Kyle would be any less of a great head coach.

Personally, I'd prefer my head coach to be the guy calling the plays like Sean Payton.

But that's just me as a guy who prefers offense and thinks offense wins championships. I don't disagree with anyone who disagrees with me.

I'd prefer a head coach that DOESN'T call his own plays. More of those types of guys fail than succeed.

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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I think it's quite clear... It doesn't matter if you're Lombardi or Belichick... if you don't have a franchise QB, you're just going to be **ed...one way or the other Arians = franchise QB Fox = franchise QB Whisenhunt = Ryan Lindley/John Skelton who **ing knows I think the most important thing to any football franchise...it's not owner, it's not GM, it's not coach...it's not LT, RT or DT it's a god damn elite QB
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