Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 404

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

**gblowfish** · 06-19-2013, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi

bahahaha, Keitz callin Moose a fat, soft, white pussy

So until he gets his average over his weight (he needs to hit .212) we call him "Fatsoftwhitepussy" or "Fatsopussy" for short.

stonedstooge · 06-19-2013, 04:01 PM

Not sure why all the hate on Moose. The dude shows more competitive fire than most on the team. I'm sure he's much more disappointed in himself then any of the fans are. I don't recall him saying any shit that would warrant fans turning on him. You can see in his at bats that he's trying to make adjustments in his swing. Now taking a look at someone like Frenchy last year, when performing poorly, he looked to make NO adjustments and was reportedly in on Seitzer getting let go. I can hate on that. Should Moose have been sent down? Most likely. But that's up to management, not a call that he makes. Dude looks like he's been beatdown from this. I really hope it changes

**DeezNutz** · 06-19-2013, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge

Not sure why all the hate on Moose. The dude shows more competitive fire than most on the team. I'm sure he's much more disappointed in himself then any of the fans are. I don't recall him saying any shit that would warrant fans turning on him. You can see in his at bats that he's trying to make adjustments in his swing. Now taking a look at someone like Frenchy last year, when performing poorly, he looked to make NO adjustments and was reportedly in on Seitzer getting let go. I can hate on that. Should Moose have been sent down? Most likely. But that's up to management, not a call that he makes. Dude looks like he's been beatdown from this. I really hope it changes

1. Not true. He's been a lazy POS lately, so much so that he was called out by Hud of all people.
2. Because he sucks, currently. Produce or GTFO, and it's time for Moose to do the latter.

mr. tegu · 06-19-2013, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge

Not sure why all the hate on Moose. The dude shows more competitive fire than most on the team. I'm sure he's much more disappointed in himself then any of the fans are. I don't recall him saying any shit that would warrant fans turning on him. You can see in his at bats that he's trying to make adjustments in his swing. Now taking a look at someone like Frenchy last year, when performing poorly, he looked to make NO adjustments and was reportedly in on Seitzer getting let go. I can hate on that. Should Moose have been sent down? Most likely. But that's up to management, not a call that he makes. Dude looks like he's been beatdown from this. I really hope it changes

stonedstooge · 06-19-2013, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

1. Not true. He's been a lazy POS lately, so much so that he was called out by Hud of all people.
2. Because he sucks, currently. Produce or GTFO, and it's time for Moose to do the latter.

Don't think his going down the line is because he's lazy. Disgusted in himself is more like it. Hud is a ****ing moron if you haven't noticed yet

stonedstooge · 06-19-2013, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Sometimes that's the best a person can do in life

mr. tegu · 06-19-2013, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge

Sometimes that's the best a person can do in life

Well lets just hope this isn't his best.

**gblowfish** · 06-19-2013, 04:09 PM

Give Moose a participation ribbon.
Take him out for ice cream.
Let his mom give him a big hug.

Then put him on a bus to Omaha.

stonedstooge · 06-19-2013, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish

Give Moose a participation ribbon.
Take him out for ice cream.
Let him mom give him a big hug.

Then put him on a bus to Omaha.

Sounds like a plan. He'd probably agree with you

**DeezNutz** · 06-19-2013, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonedstooge

Don't think his going down the line is because he's lazy. Disgusted in himself is more like it. Hud is a ****ing moron if you haven't noticed yet

If I'm not producing for shit, putting in a lackluster effort sounds like a great plan.

Statistically, this team is a game worse than it should be because of MooseShit; dude is below replacement value, and he needs to go.

**gblowfish** · 06-19-2013, 04:15 PM

Chris Perez is sucking it in AA ball in Akron. Heh...
http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index...r_chris_7.html

Deberg_1990 · 06-19-2013, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge

Not sure why all the hate on Moose. The dude shows more competitive fire than most on the team. I'm sure he's much more disappointed in himself then any of the fans are. I don't recall him saying any shit that would warrant fans turning on him. You can see in his at bats that he's trying to make adjustments in his swing. Now taking a look at someone like Frenchy last year, when performing poorly, he looked to make NO adjustments and was reportedly in on Seitzer getting let go. I can hate on that. Should Moose have been sent down? Most likely. But that's up to management, not a call that he makes. Dude looks like he's been beatdown from this. I really hope it changes

Im just wondering how long they give this guy a shot at the permanent 3B job? They cant just hand the job to him next season if he bats sub .200 for this year. They better start looking at plan b alternatives in the offseason.

Mama Hip Rockets · 06-19-2013, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge

Not sure why all the hate on Moose.

Seriously? You don't understand why fans are mad at a guy who's hitting .189 and has 12 RBIs in 221 plate appearances?

KevB · 06-19-2013, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman

Seriously? You don't understand why fans are mad at a guy who's hitting .189 and has 12 RBIs in 221 plate appearances?

Coming off a second half last year that wasn't much better....

I like the guy, but this is professional baseball.

Deberg_1990 · 06-19-2013, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevB

I like the guy, but this is professional baseball.

Exactly. give me an an a-hole that hits .300 rather than a nice guy who hits .180 any day of the week.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1760308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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stonedstooge Arf! Arf! Arf! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North Casino cash: $6064173	Not sure why all the hate on Moose. The dude shows more competitive fire than most on the team. I'm sure he's much more disappointed in himself then any of the fans are. I don't recall him saying any shit that would warrant fans turning on him. You can see in his at bats that he's trying to make adjustments in his swing. Now taking a look at someone like Frenchy last year, when performing poorly, he looked to make NO adjustments and was reportedly in on Seitzer getting let go. I can hate on that. Should Moose have been sent down? Most likely. But that's up to management, not a call that he makes. Dude looks like he's been beatdown from this. I really hope it changes __________________ 2013 ADOPT A CHIEF Eric Kush "Often is a word I seldom use"--JP
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