Chiefs If the Chiefs hire a first time head coach

Wile_E_Coyote · 01-26-2009, 04:29 PM

...and they have to replace him in a year or two. Is the program set back?

88TG88 · 01-26-2009, 04:31 PM

Not if we draft/bring in good players.

RustShack · 01-26-2009, 04:33 PM

You don't replace a new coach in a year or two dumbass.

RustShack · 01-26-2009, 04:34 PM

If you want to know what happens to organization that replace the coach after a year or two see the Raiders.

Wile_E_Coyote · 01-26-2009, 04:34 PM

Saban, Petrino & Cameron, ect

Cheater5 · 01-26-2009, 04:37 PM

IF we go 1-15 two years in a row, I would guess that the HC would be removed. And yes, this would be a set back.

Wile_E_Coyote · 01-26-2009, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheater5

IF we go 1-15 two years in a row, I would guess that the HC would be removed. And yes, this would be a set back.

What if they pick up a Cowher, Holmgren or Shanahan? They would be picking up high round draft picks under Pioli

DJ's left nut · 01-26-2009, 04:40 PM

How could it not be?

If in 2 years we have to can our coach, it's because the club didn't progress. Now we'll be tossing everyone out and starting from scratch with a new system and many new players. It's absolutely moving backwards.

This isn't an old team that could need a 'transition' coach. This is a young team that needs to be progressing, improving its talent base and moving up in the standings. We've hit rock-bottom, if we have to fire a coach in 2 years, that's right where we'd be again.

Cheater5 · 01-26-2009, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wile_E_Coyote

What if they pick up a Cowher, Holmgren or Shanahan? They would be picking up high round draft picks under Pioli

So, for the sake of argument let's look at it this way

2007: 4-12
2008: 2-14
2009: 1-15
2010: 1-15

But...we got Holmgren/Shanahan/Cowher/Lombardi's Ghost, plus two first round picks, and this is not seen as a step backward?

My contention is it doesnt matter; it isnt working.

**DaKCMan AP** · 01-26-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Wile_E_Coyote

Saban, Petrino & Cameron, ect

Terrible examples for a couple of reasons.

1. Saban and Petrino chose to leave.

2. Cameron was replaced because a new front office was hired.

3. Neither Miami nor Atlanta were set back with the departure of Petrino and dismissal of Cameron.

Fish · 01-26-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 88TG88

Not if we draft/bring in good players.

Yup.

Everyone is putting so much emphasis on having the perfect coach. But without quality players it doesn't matter....

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-26-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

If you want to know what happens to organization that replace the coach after a year or two see the Raiders.

QFT.

Furthermore, I can't see Pioli and Clark Hunt hiring a guy that would need replacing in one year.

That would be a colossal mistake and I just can't envision that happening.

Wile_E_Coyote · 01-26-2009, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheater5

So, for the sake of argument let's look at it this way

2007: 4-12
2008: 2-14
2009: 1-15
2010: 1-15

But...we got Holmgren/Shanahan/Cowher/Lombardi's Ghost, plus two first round picks, and this is not seen as a step backward?

My contention is it doesnt matter; it isnt working.

Going 5-11 & 8-8 could be reason to be replaced. Yet you are still building a good core of players, scheme or not

Wile_E_Coyote · 01-26-2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Terrible examples for a couple of reasons.

1. Saban and Petrino chose to leave.

2. Cameron was replaced because a new front office was hired.

3. Neither Miami nor Atlanta were set back with the departure of Petrino and dismissal of Cameron.

They were still replaced

Wile_E_Coyote · 01-26-2009, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 88TG88

Not if we draft/bring in good players.

This is how I feel.

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