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Old 07-08-2013, 02:52 PM  
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Have you ever used steroids, HGH, etc.?

Just curious to see who uses or has used these types of products and what your experiences were.

Did you have a specific reason for using them?

Did they work?

Did you experience any side effects?
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:17 AM   #376
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Most definitely. While I think there is a push for men to be "Sexier" or more fit, I see tons of women that are hot, take care of themselves, etc with slob ugly dudes.

It has nothing to do with his wallet or the size of his junk either (that never made sense to me, what'd he do just walk up and pull it out, and she swooned?)

Generally a lot of women settle in the looks department because well, there aren't a lot of attractive guys out there to choose from. The ones that are, are generally either already taken, or like to "run around" a lot. So a woman who has experienced this leaves with a lot of bitterness in regards to being with good looking men.

So they settle. So the chubby ugly guy can still get a hot chic, if his game is pretty good, i.e. good sense of humor, makes her feel comfortable, she finds him interesting, etc.

So the guys don't have the same pressure from a looks standpoint that women do. Women are expected to be beautiful, and this is what their attention from men gets based around. That and that alone, at least in getting early attention. Where a woman is more open to giving a guy a chance, even if he doesn't quite meet her standards in the look department.
I'm in better shape than my wife. It's annoying. She has no gym work ethic. If I want her to really buckle down, I have to make her go with me.
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:27 AM   #377
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Lol insanity
You have no idea what kind of cycles I see guys using. I mean, I don't even know how some guys can function.
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:39 AM   #378
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I'm in better shape than my wife. It's annoying. She has no gym work ethic. If I want her to really buckle down, I have to make her go with me.
Funny. Most of the most fit women I see now are in their 40's.
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Old 07-10-2013, 09:50 AM   #379
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It doesn't shock me that there are this many people on CP that have done steroids.

I mean, just walking around my gym at peak time, you can pick out at least 7 guys that are on something.
I never realized how many people use them until I used them.

It's really more than most people realize.
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Old 07-10-2013, 09:57 AM   #380
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Ok, whatever dude...it's common knowledge that society puts different standards on women than men, but good for you that your bubble is safe from that. I applaud your world.
You seem very bitter. I wasn't trying to insult you but it's clear that you live in a different head space than I do.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:02 AM   #381
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Yea great logic Dane except you are dead wrong. Steroids were banned by MLB in 1991.

A quick Google search will confirm that for you.
And if MLB was concerned with upholding that ban, why did they fail to randomly and frequently test for steroids? Jose Canseco said that as many as 80% of the league was juicing, yet he was laughed at by outsiders.

And why did they look the other way when it was obvious to everyone that McGuire, Bonds and Sosa were clearly juicing, along with numerous other players?

The fact is that MLB didn't give a crap until the Feds became interested in 2005. THEN it became a big deal and in 2006, after their own investigations, did eating and bans begin.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:03 AM   #382
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Funny. Most of the most fit women I see now are in their 40's.
Spinning, Pilates and yoga?
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:08 AM   #383
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Spinning, Pilates and yoga?
No I see them lifting and getting after it. Everytime I'm at the pool or somewhere out the hottest most in shape chics are the 40-something moms.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:11 AM   #384
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No I see them lifting and getting after it. Everytime I'm at the pool or somewhere out the hottest most in shape chics are the 40-something moms.
Really? Lifting? Wow. Out here, all the yummy mommies are into Pilates, Bikram, spinning, stairs and hiking at places like Griffith Park and Runyon Canyon.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:13 AM   #385
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I'm in better shape than my wife. It's annoying. She has no gym work ethic. If I want her to really buckle down, I have to make her go with me.
My wife is a gym rat, but she refused to branch out for years, sticking to her Les Mills classes. I've finally got her doing some different stuff within the last month, and I'm hoping she starts to see results from it to build up her confidence in going out on her own.

I told her that her ass will never look like mine (I have a nice ass, no self homo) until she starts squatting and dead lifting some real weight, not the bullshit they do in Body Pump.
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I never realized how many people use them until I used them.

It's really more than most people realize.
I also think it depends on the gym. At the typical 24 Hour Fitness, Bally's, LA Fitness and so on, I'd see maybe one or two guys that looked like they were juicing.

But places like World, Gold's and any number of private gyms, it's like 95%.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:16 AM   #387
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I also think it depends on the gym. At the typical 24 Hour Fitness, Bally's, LA Fitness and so on, I'd see maybe one or two guys that looked like they were juicing.

But places like World, Gold's and any number of private gyms, it's like 95%.
The thing is that there are more than the ones that "look like they are juicing."

Some people use them before they really need them (like I did) and they aren't the giant muscle dudes like you expect. I was sort of big, but I wasn't "hey that dude is juicing" big.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:36 AM   #388
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Ok, whatever dude...it's common knowledge that society puts different standards on women than men, but good for you that your bubble is safe from that. I applaud your world.
You know, I'm not picking on you but this statement bothers me.

If you think that the average 35-50 year old fat guy that's earning $50-$60k per year can walk into any bar, night club, beach or swimming pool and pull the hottest woman in the place with ease, your perceptions are completely warped.

If that were the case, the divorce rate would skyrocket 35% overnight because average Joes would be banging all the young hotties.

That is clearly not the case.

If you're talking about millionaires and billionaires, you of all people should know that the rules are different, because those guys won and hence, reap the riches of their success.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:49 AM   #389
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You know, I'm not picking on you but this statement bothers me.

If you think that the average 35-50 year old fat guy that's earning $50-$60k per year can walk into any bar, night club, beach or swimming pool and pull the hottest woman in the place with ease, your perceptions are completely warped.

If that were the case, the divorce rate would skyrocket 35% overnight because average Joes would be banging all the young hotties.

That is clearly not the case.

If you're talking about millionaires and billionaires, you of all people should know that the rules are different, because those guys won and hence, reap the riches of their success.
You're talking about the extremes again. There's a middle ground between Joe Goatee making $50k and Donald Trump.

I could go out and meet plenty of hot 22 year olds who would be willing to date an average looking 35 year old guy who isn't a billionaire but makes good money. It's harder to find a 22 year old beefcake who will date an average looking older woman. (Bang, maybe...but not enter into an exclusive, serious relationship.)
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You're talking about the extremes again. There's a middle ground between Joe Goatee making $50k and Donald Trump.

I could go out and meet plenty of hot 22 year olds who would be willing to date an average looking 35 year old guy who isn't a billionaire but makes good money. It's harder to find a 22 year old beefcake who will date an average looking older woman. (Bang, maybe...but not enter into an exclusive, serious relationship.)
And Carlota wasn't?

I wasn't referring to "average looking", I'm taking about overweight, fat guys aged 35-50 pulling all the hot chicks in the joint every time he goes out. That is ridiculous.

Sean Connery as the Sexiest Man Alive at age 59? Duh. He was THE James Bond. Henry Jones, Sr. Multimillionaire.

Average fat, middle income 59 year? Yeah, no.
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