Juan Gonzalez!

tk13 · 01-11-2005, 12:40 AM

More movement in the "Black sheep of Kansas City Sports" club today... all we need now is to hear that Minnesota has signed the kicker who shall forever remain unnamed.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseb...z_x.htm?csp=34

Indians, Gonzalez closing in on deal
By Tom Withers, The Associated Press

CLEVELAND — Free agent outfielder Juan Gonzalez, whose production has plummeted in recent years because of injuries, is close to signing a minor league contract with the Cleveland Indians.
If the two-time American League MVP makes the Indians' 25-man roster in spring training, he would get $600,000 and would have a chance to earn another $1.65 million in bonuses based on plate appearances and $300,000 based on time on the active roster.

"We have no deal yet, but remain hopeful that we can get something done soon," Indians general manager Mark Shapiro said Monday night.

Once one of baseball's most feared right-handed power hitters, the 35-year-old Gonzalez has been limited to just 185 games the past three seasons with Texas and Kansas City because of a variety of injuries.

A lower back problem hampered him last season when he played in just 33 games with the Royals, batting .326 with five homers and 17 RBI.

Gonzalez hasn't played a full season since 2001, when he had one of his best all-around years as a pro with the Indians. In 140 games, he batted .325 with 35 homers and 140 RBI — the third most of his career — and helped Cleveland to the AL playoffs.

If he's healthy, Gonzalez would give the Indians some much-needed pop from the right side. He would also alter Cleveland's plans in the outfield.

Gonzalez could take the right-field job away from Casey Blake, who is moving there from third to make room for Aaron Boone. Blake could then go to left and Coco Crisp to center. Grady Sizemore, projected to be Cleveland's starter in center field, would likely begin the season at Triple-A Buffalo.

"There's a comfort zone for him and us," Shapiro said of Gonzalez. "If he's healthy, he's not a bench player."

Gonzalez has hit 439 career homers for Texas, Detroit, Cleveland and Kansas City.

Miles · 01-11-2005, 12:52 AM

Wow those injuries have made him fall further than i figured he would. I expected some team to take a flyer on him for around 1mil for a year. Even the chance of him being healthy for around 60-80 games would be worth something if he is around late in the season for a playoff contender.

I think its a pretty solid signing by Indians with it being non guaranteed and incentive based. Not much risk and the upside could be pretty good if his fragile ass could play a decent part of the season.

tk13 · 01-11-2005, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Miles Teg

Wow those injuries have made him fall further than i figured he would. I expected some team to take a flyer on him for around 1mil for a year. Even the chance of him being healthy for around 60-80 games would be worth something if he is around late in the season for a playoff contender.

I think its a pretty solid signing by Indians with it being non guaranteed and incentive based. Not much risk and the upside could be pretty good if his fragile ass could play a decent part of the season.

As a Royals fan, this is my only response. I didn't like the guy when we signed him, I probably like him less now....

Darkwolfe · 01-11-2005, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13

As a Royals fan, this is my only response. I didn't like the guy when we signed him, I probably like him less now....

Back in Texas we called him "Whine" Gonzales and set about making his day as miserable as possible everytime we could.

He is NOT someone you want around as a morale booster. Hopefully the Royals won't goof and get stuck with him.

Miles · 01-11-2005, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13

As a Royals fan, this is my only response. I didn't like the guy when we signed him, I probably like him less now....

That i can definitly understand. Im not really a Royals fan so he doesnt piss me off like he does you guys.

Hammock Parties · 01-11-2005, 01:07 AM

Send him back to Texas. He's always pretty good here if he's not injured.

Wait, we got Richard Hidalgo. Never mind.

01-11-2005, 12:40 AM
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1792500	Juan Gonzalez! More movement in the "Black sheep of Kansas City Sports" club today... all we need now is to hear that Minnesota has signed the kicker who shall forever remain unnamed. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseb...z_x.htm?csp=34 Indians, Gonzalez closing in on deal By Tom Withers, The Associated Press CLEVELAND — Free agent outfielder Juan Gonzalez, whose production has plummeted in recent years because of injuries, is close to signing a minor league contract with the Cleveland Indians. If the two-time American League MVP makes the Indians' 25-man roster in spring training, he would get $600,000 and would have a chance to earn another $1.65 million in bonuses based on plate appearances and $300,000 based on time on the active roster. "We have no deal yet, but remain hopeful that we can get something done soon," Indians general manager Mark Shapiro said Monday night. Once one of baseball's most feared right-handed power hitters, the 35-year-old Gonzalez has been limited to just 185 games the past three seasons with Texas and Kansas City because of a variety of injuries. A lower back problem hampered him last season when he played in just 33 games with the Royals, batting .326 with five homers and 17 RBI. Gonzalez hasn't played a full season since 2001, when he had one of his best all-around years as a pro with the Indians. In 140 games, he batted .325 with 35 homers and 140 RBI — the third most of his career — and helped Cleveland to the AL playoffs. If he's healthy, Gonzalez would give the Indians some much-needed pop from the right side. He would also alter Cleveland's plans in the outfield. Gonzalez could take the right-field job away from Casey Blake, who is moving there from third to make room for Aaron Boone. Blake could then go to left and Coco Crisp to center. Grady Sizemore, projected to be Cleveland's starter in center field, would likely begin the season at Triple-A Buffalo. "There's a comfort zone for him and us," Shapiro said of Gonzalez. "If he's healthy, he's not a bench player." Gonzalez has hit 439 career homers for Texas, Detroit, Cleveland and Kansas City.
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01-11-2005, 12:52 AM	#2
Miles MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Casino cash: $1452400	Wow those injuries have made him fall further than i figured he would. I expected some team to take a flyer on him for around 1mil for a year. Even the chance of him being healthy for around 60-80 games would be worth something if he is around late in the season for a playoff contender. I think its a pretty solid signing by Indians with it being non guaranteed and incentive based. Not much risk and the upside could be pretty good if his fragile ass could play a decent part of the season.
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01-11-2005, 01:07 AM	#6
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4500478	Send him back to Texas. He's always pretty good here if he's not injured. Wait, we got Richard Hidalgo. Never mind. __________________ Chiefs game films
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