Why not GO FOR 2 POINTS????

TEX · 11-26-2000, 07:13 PM

I said it at the time and I'll say it again - WHY didn't Gun go for the 2 point conversion instead of the extra point????? Gun chose NOT to try and tie the score at 14. Instaed he SETTLED for the extra point making the score 14 - 13. If we failed on the 2 point conversion, a field goal STILL BEATS US. since we settled for 1, a field goal STILL BEATS US - IT DID! How STUPID, or should I say PAR FOR THE CPURSE with this staff. LOL!

donkhater · 11-26-2000, 07:27 PM

I really don't know why either. I mean, it's not even because we have the benefit of hindsight do we question this call. If you are down by 2, you go for 2. It does not matter if you are down by 1 or 2 points, so why not try to tie.

I laughed at the stupidity of the coaching in the four previous games prior to this one. I've come to expect idiotic calls like this from a Gunther coached team. Too bad he'll be here next year.

AZChief · 11-26-2000, 07:32 PM

I thought the exact same thing. The only thing I can think of, playing devil's advocate, was that there was still a lot of time left in the game. That is the only thing I can think of. The better question is why was Moon playing the second half? Is Collins that bad? I remember thinking about "next year" in November back in '88 and it feels even worse today...

AZ

Nelson Muntz · 11-26-2000, 08:00 PM

because every damn sane person in the world knew that we would go for two so gun decided he would fool them all and just kick the extra point

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hawaiianboy · 11-26-2000, 08:05 PM

Mother #$$#@@#$'s!

Cost me some $$$$ and I had KC (even).

Stupid not going for 2.... also, trailing by 1 with a minute something left.... why not just give up the TD on the first play.... That way you'd be down 8 with the ball back and the chance to tie.....
Friggen' useless Moooooooon

[This message has been edited by hawaiianboy (edited 11-26-2000).]

TEX · 11-26-2000, 09:22 PM

I l ike Slim's answer! *grin*
Any sane person WOULD go for 2! I'm really starting to question Gun's mentality. There are stats that show when to go for 2 and when not to. I bet that in that situation the stats showed 100% in FAVOR of going for 2. That play right there is just one BONE HEAD move in a season full of BONE HEAD MOVES that PROVES how utterly CONFUSED our WHOLE staff really is. It's honestly FUNNY!

Pitt Gorilla · 11-26-2000, 09:39 PM

I REALLY hope the media has a field day with this decision. I just don't see ANY justification for not going for two. In no way does it make any sense. By the way, it's kind of weird that the Star guys, whit and pos, were actually both right in their columns today.

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11-26-2000, 09:44 PM

Bennett was using the can! [img]http://www.chiefsplanet.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

G_Man · 11-26-2000, 09:46 PM

Maybe I'm not sane, but it wasn't an absolutely idiotic decision to go for one IMO. There was still plenty of time in the game and we had no idea how it would play out. Had we missed the 2 pointer, we wouldn't have been helped anyway either. In hindsight, yes, the 2 pointer would have been good. But had the game turned out differently we would have been criticizing Gun for his move (had we missed). I think the bigger issue is we actually needed a 2pt conversion to beat the lowly Chargers.

G_Man · 11-26-2000, 09:47 PM

Make that "TIE the Chargers."

donkhater · 11-26-2000, 09:48 PM

I'll bet you anything that Gun will say that he was talking with his offense and when he turned around they already kicked the extra point. He'll say,"Obviuosly in hindsight it was something that should have taken place. I'm going to sit down with the special teams this week and you can darn bet that will never happen again."

Yeah right

donkhater · 11-26-2000, 09:49 PM

I'll bet you anything that Gun will say that he was talking with his offense and when he turned around they already kicked the extra point. He'll say,"Obviuosly in hindsight it was something that should have taken place. I'm going to sit down with the special teams this week and you can darn bet that will never happen again."

Yeah right

donkhater · 11-26-2000, 09:52 PM

G-Man, going for two wouldn't have changed anything, except give you a chance to tie the game. If you go for it and miss, you're still down two needing a field goal to win.<P>

TEX · 11-26-2000, 10:39 PM

Donkhater,
That's exactly my point.

Coogs,
LOL! Bennett was using the can! THAT'S FUNNY!

TEX · 11-28-2000, 10:40 PM

Have any of you locals gotten the "official" explination on this one yet? Someone had to have posed the question to Gun or Carl. I can't wait to hear the reason.

11-26-2000, 07:27 PM	#2
donkhater Brilliant!! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Indiana, USA Casino cash: $10014051	I really don't know why either. I mean, it's not even because we have the benefit of hindsight do we question this call. If you are down by 2, you go for 2. It does not matter if you are down by 1 or 2 points, so why not try to tie. I laughed at the stupidity of the coaching in the four previous games prior to this one. I've come to expect idiotic calls like this from a Gunther coached team. Too bad he'll be here next year.
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11-26-2000, 07:32 PM	#3
AZChief Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Casino cash: $10005025	I thought the exact same thing. The only thing I can think of, playing devil's advocate, was that there was still a lot of time left in the game. That is the only thing I can think of. The better question is why was Moon playing the second half? Is Collins that bad? I remember thinking about "next year" in November back in '88 and it feels even worse today... AZ
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11-26-2000, 08:00 PM	#4
Nelson Muntz Ha Ha Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	because every damn sane person in the world knew that we would go for two so gun decided he would fool them all and just kick the extra point ------------------ ~R.I.P. Tupac Shakur~
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11-26-2000, 08:05 PM	#5
hawaiianboy *************** Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Mother #$$#@@#$'s! Cost me some $$$$ and I had KC (even). Stupid not going for 2.... also, trailing by 1 with a minute something left.... why not just give up the TD on the first play.... That way you'd be down 8 with the ball back and the chance to tie..... Friggen' useless Moooooooon [This message has been edited by hawaiianboy (edited 11-26-2000).]
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11-26-2000, 09:22 PM	#6
TEX Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Laguna Beach, CA Casino cash: $2383127	I l ike Slim's answer! grin Any sane person WOULD go for 2! I'm really starting to question Gun's mentality. There are stats that show when to go for 2 and when not to. I bet that in that situation the stats showed 100% in FAVOR of going for 2. That play right there is just one BONE HEAD move in a season full of BONE HEAD MOVES that PROVES how utterly CONFUSED our WHOLE staff really is. It's honestly FUNNY!
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11-26-2000, 07:13 PM
TEX Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Laguna Beach, CA Casino cash: $2383127	I said it at the time and I'll say it again - WHY didn't Gun go for the 2 point conversion instead of the extra point????? Gun chose NOT to try and tie the score at 14. Instaed he SETTLED for the extra point making the score 14 - 13. If we failed on the 2 point conversion, a field goal STILL BEATS US. since we settled for 1, a field goal STILL BEATS US - IT DID! How STUPID, or should I say PAR FOR THE CPURSE with this staff. LOL!
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11-26-2000, 09:39 PM	#7
Pitt Gorilla Banned! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: NOT Columbia, MO 65201 Casino cash: $2970194	I REALLY hope the media has a field day with this decision. I just don't see ANY justification for not going for two. In no way does it make any sense. By the way, it's kind of weird that the Star guys, whit and pos, were actually both right in their columns today. ------------------ GO PITT!
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11-26-2000, 09:44 PM	#8
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11-26-2000, 09:46 PM	#9
G_Man Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Maybe I'm not sane, but it wasn't an absolutely idiotic decision to go for one IMO. There was still plenty of time in the game and we had no idea how it would play out. Had we missed the 2 pointer, we wouldn't have been helped anyway either. In hindsight, yes, the 2 pointer would have been good. But had the game turned out differently we would have been criticizing Gun for his move (had we missed). I think the bigger issue is we actually needed a 2pt conversion to beat the lowly Chargers.
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11-26-2000, 09:47 PM	#10
G_Man Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Make that "TIE the Chargers."
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11-26-2000, 09:48 PM	#11
donkhater Brilliant!! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Indiana, USA Casino cash: $10014051	I'll bet you anything that Gun will say that he was talking with his offense and when he turned around they already kicked the extra point. He'll say,"Obviuosly in hindsight it was something that should have taken place. I'm going to sit down with the special teams this week and you can darn bet that will never happen again." Yeah right
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11-26-2000, 09:49 PM	#12
donkhater Brilliant!! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Indiana, USA Casino cash: $10014051	I'll bet you anything that Gun will say that he was talking with his offense and when he turned around they already kicked the extra point. He'll say,"Obviuosly in hindsight it was something that should have taken place. I'm going to sit down with the special teams this week and you can darn bet that will never happen again." Yeah right
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11-26-2000, 09:52 PM	#13
donkhater Brilliant!! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Indiana, USA Casino cash: $10014051	G-Man, going for two wouldn't have changed anything, except give you a chance to tie the game. If you go for it and miss, you're still down two needing a field goal to win.<P>
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11-26-2000, 10:39 PM	#14
TEX Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Laguna Beach, CA Casino cash: $2383127	Donkhater, That's exactly my point. Coogs, LOL! Bennett was using the can! THAT'S FUNNY!
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11-28-2000, 10:40 PM	#15
TEX Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Laguna Beach, CA Casino cash: $2383127	Have any of you locals gotten the "official" explination on this one yet? Someone had to have posed the question to Gun or Carl. I can't wait to hear the reason.
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