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Old 02-03-2012, 12:02 PM   #1
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I agree zilla.


However, I think CP fails to realize sometimes that franchise qbs aren't exactly everywhere.

IMO there are 6 or 7 in the league. WHich means 20 some teams are always lookng for one.
6 or 7 in a ten year span, which means 20 some teams will fail MULTIPLE times.

Still...backups are easy and cheap to get. Pioli is 100% to blame for the lack of having a backup.
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:40 PM   #2
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6 or 7 in a ten year span, which means 20 some teams will fail MULTIPLE times.

Still...backups are easy and cheap to get. Pioli is 100% to blame for the lack of having a backup.
But we do have a backup... Only problem is he's the starter.
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:43 PM   #3
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I agree that no matter who the Palko thing is on it was fail on basically all sides.


However there is a reason that guys are backups. Look at Chicago, Indy, etc. You don't plan on your top qb going down. I realize you have to have a backup plan but when you have to play a backup, there is gonna ba a drop off.

I think CP tends to jump to the "it's either one thing of another" mentality and doesn't see the grey matter alot of times.

I tend to agree that haley got a shitty deal with Cassel. I don't really see alot of other options that he could have brought in to start. The search for qb is neverending and we shouldn't stop looking til we find one.

I think Pioli knows that. I think Cassel was brought in to be a stop gap type of player. Don't know why he got that much money but anyway. I think Pioli saw the roster and needed someone that would be a good leader and set a good example, which is something Cassel has done.

Now the roster is basically built, assuming the 3 ACL's come back healthy as they are a key piece to the pie.

Now it's time to go get a guy to lead the team with his ability at the qb position.
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Old 10-10-2012, 12:07 AM   #4
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He thinks Crennel only got the Job cause Pioli wanted the Power and Crennel doesn't have the power to pull Cassel out of a game.
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Old 10-10-2012, 12:15 AM   #5
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He thinks Crennel only got the Job cause Pioli wanted the Power and Crennel doesn't have the power to pull Cassel out of a game.
Yep, and Haley was fired because he wouldn't be Pioli's puppet any longer. Pioli is an arrogant, egotistical puppet master, and everyone knows it. It's terrible for our franchise. Just ****ing terrible. Clark needs to put an end to it asap.
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:17 AM   #6
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He thinks Crennel only got the Job cause Pioli wanted the Power and Crennel doesn't have the power to pull Cassel out of a game.
It is unfathomable that Cassel hasn't been pulled the last few games. Reporters have repeatedly asked Romeo if he ever considered pulling Cassel, and Romeo has repeatedly stated "no." Someone needs to ask Romeo the obvious follow-up question, "if you didn't consider pulling your quarterback in the last few games, under what circumstances would you consider pulling your quarterback? Cassel has more than thirteen turnovers to just four touchdowns- just how abysmal does Cassel have to be for you to pull him?"
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:22 AM   #7
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I wonder what the fear is in pulling Cassel?
That it's an indirect admission of a mistake?
Pioli isn't above making a mistake.
Neither is any other GM.

Admit you were wrong about Cassel and move on.
Guess what? If his replacement plays well...you'll get credit for it.
That's the job.
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:31 AM   #8
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I wonder what the fear is in pulling Cassel?
That it's an indirect admission of a mistake?
Pioli isn't above making a mistake.
Neither is any other GM.

Admit you were wrong about Cassel and move on.
Guess what? If his replacement plays well...you'll get credit for it.
That's the job.
I know right. If Brady does actually look decent. Pioli will get credit for the signing. I just don't understand. Has there ever been a situation where an organization so blindly stuck with a QB?
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Old 10-10-2012, 08:04 AM   #9
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I know right. If Brady does actually look decent. Pioli will get credit for the signing. I just don't understand. Has there ever been a situation where an organization so blindly stuck with a QB?
I'm sure there has been, but I'd also guess that QB was drafted HIGH by that organization. Refusing to part with a poorly-performing player acquired in a trade makes ZERO sense. Even when considering the contract.
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:24 AM   #10
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It is unfathomable that Cassel hasn't been pulled the last few games. Reporters have repeatedly asked Romeo if he ever considered pulling Cassel, and Romeo has repeatedly stated "no." Someone needs to ask Romeo the obvious follow-up question, "if you didn't consider pulling your quarterback in the last few games, under what circumstances would you consider pulling your quarterback? Cassel has more than thirteen turnovers to just four touchdowns- just how abysmal does Cassel have to be for you to pull him?"
He has to be hurt.
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:35 AM   #11
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He thinks Crennel only got the Job cause Pioli wanted the Power and Crennel doesn't have the power to pull Cassel out of a game.
Its been obvious for awhile now. Crennel is a "yes man" who wont rock the boat.

Its why alot of us were against him being hired as HC.

Hes an OK DC, and a fine guy, but hes in over his head as a HC. heck, we already had 4 years of evidence of it.
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Old 10-10-2012, 11:09 AM   #12
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Its been obvious for awhile now. Crennel is a "yes man" who wont rock the boat.

Its why alot of us were against him being hired as HC.

Hes an OK DC, and a fine guy, but hes in over his head as a HC. heck, we already had 4 years of evidence of it.
I think a lot of Planeteers and Chiefs fans in general are still sipping the left-over Kool Aid that's been sitting in the back of the fridge for 3 years.

Roleo doesn't give a tinker's damn about winning. He doesn't give a damn about the Chiefs and he doesn't give a damn about the fans. He's here to wrap up the twilight of a career and support his old buddy, Dr. Evil.

People talk about his laid-back personality, but he hasn't always been that way and he doesn't have to be that way now. The fact of the matter is that the fire in old Roleo burned out some time ago.

Meanwhile, Piolio is sticking it to the fans whenever he can. He views us as a bunch of redneck, tractor riders who wouldn't know which fork to use at a dinner party. He's an elitist megalomaniac and we are the fly-over-state dumbasses who are supposed to snap up tickets for an 8 and 8 team and, when they don't, they need to #getaclue.

We're caught up in a perfect storm of absentee, mainly emotionally-detached owner, narcissistic GM, and indifferent head coach. At this point, caring about this team is, as Mr. Iowanian would say, akin to sending love letters to your bad girlfriend.

Cassel is a symptom. Not the disease. And that, my friends, is the sad, horrifying truth of it all.

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I think a lot of Planeteers and Chiefs fans in general are still sipping the left-over Kool Aid that's been sitting in the back of the fridge for 3 years.

Roleo doesn't give a tinker's damn about winning. He doesn't give a damn about the Chiefs and he doesn't give a damn about the fans. He's here to wrap up the twilight of a career and support his old buddy, Dr. Evil.

People talk about his laid-back personality, but he hasn't always been that way and he doesn't have to be that way now. The fact of the matter is that the fire in old Roleo burned out some time ago.

Meanwhile, Piolio is sticking it to the fans whenever he can. He views us as a bunch of redneck, tractor riders who wouldn't know which fork to use at a dinner party. He's an elitist megalomaniac and we are the fly-over-state dumbasses who are supposed to snap up tickets for an 8 and 8 team and, when they don't, they need to #getaclue.

We're caught up in a perfect storm of absentee, mainly emotionally-detached owner, narcissistic GM, and indifferent head coach. At this point, caring about this team is, as Mr. Iowanian would say, akin to sending love letters to your bad girlfriend.

Cassel is a symptom. Not the disease. And that, my friends, is the sad, horrifying truth of it all.

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I think a lot of Planeteers and Chiefs fans in general are still sipping the left-over Kool Aid that's been sitting in the back of the fridge for 3 years.

Roleo doesn't give a tinker's damn about winning. He doesn't give a damn about the Chiefs and he doesn't give a damn about the fans. He's here to wrap up the twilight of a career and support his old buddy, Dr. Evil.

People talk about his laid-back personality, but he hasn't always been that way and he doesn't have to be that way now. The fact of the matter is that the fire in old Roleo burned out some time ago.

Meanwhile, Piolio is sticking it to the fans whenever he can. He views us as a bunch of redneck, tractor riders who wouldn't know which fork to use at a dinner party. He's an elitist megalomaniac and we are the fly-over-state dumbasses who are supposed to snap up tickets for an 8 and 8 team and, when they don't, they need to #getaclue.

We're caught up in a perfect storm of absentee, mainly emotionally-detached owner, narcissistic GM, and indifferent head coach. At this point, caring about this team is, as Mr. Iowanian would say, akin to sending love letters to your bad girlfriend.

Cassel is a symptom. Not the disease. And that, my friends, is the sad, horrifying truth of it all.

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I think a lot of Planeteers and Chiefs fans in general are still sipping the left-over Kool Aid that's been sitting in the back of the fridge for 3 years.

Roleo doesn't give a tinker's damn about winning. He doesn't give a damn about the Chiefs and he doesn't give a damn about the fans. He's here to wrap up the twilight of a career and support his old buddy, Dr. Evil.

People talk about his laid-back personality, but he hasn't always been that way and he doesn't have to be that way now. The fact of the matter is that the fire in old Roleo burned out some time ago.

Meanwhile, Piolio is sticking it to the fans whenever he can. He views us as a bunch of redneck, tractor riders who wouldn't know which fork to use at a dinner party. He's an elitist megalomaniac and we are the fly-over-state dumbasses who are supposed to snap up tickets for an 8 and 8 team and, when they don't, they need to #getaclue.

We're caught up in a perfect storm of absentee, mainly emotionally-detached owner, narcissistic GM, and indifferent head coach. At this point, caring about this team is, as Mr. Iowanian would say, akin to sending love letters to your bad girlfriend.

Cassel is a symptom. Not the disease. And that, my friends, is the sad, horrifying truth of it all.

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