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Old 09-20-2013, 01:10 PM   #1
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All this wailing about how the team needs this and that aside, the big difference for me this season is that seeing the team with 3 wins now has been FUN, while last year, over the last 5 or 6 games in particular, we dreaded another win which might screw the team out of the top draft pick and cleaning house.

Yes, they are 3 and 0 and it is great! Are they bound for a 12 win season? Probably not. Will they finish 4-12? Almost certainly not. But, dammit all, game days are going to be fun this season and that is something that has been lacking for a long, long time.
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Old 09-20-2013, 01:20 PM   #2
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All this wailing about how the team needs this and that aside, the big difference for me this season is that seeing the team with 3 wins now has been FUN, while last year, over the last 5 or 6 games in particular, we dreaded another win which might screw the team out of the top draft pick and cleaning house.

Yes, they are 3 and 0 and it is great! Are they bound for a 12 win season? Probably not. Will they finish 4-12? Almost certainly not. But, dammit all, game days are going to be fun this season and that is something that has been lacking for a long, long time.
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Old 09-20-2013, 01:13 PM   #3
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Regarding 5. Houston is a more rounded LB than DT ever dreamed of being. I don't know if Houson will ever match DT's sack numbers, but overall Houston is a more complete football player.
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Old 09-21-2013, 10:50 AM   #4
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Regarding 5. Houston is a more rounded LB than DT ever dreamed of being. I don't know if Houson will ever match DT's sack numbers, but overall Houston is a more complete football player.
This stood out to me also.

DT was one of the best pass rushers ever, and the clear leader of the defense.
But he was a liability in both run support, though his backside pursuit was outstanding, and in pass coverage.

Justin Houston is almost certainly the most complete player at OLB since Bobby Bell, who I still believe is the best overall OLB to have ever played the game.
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Old 09-21-2013, 10:57 AM   #5
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DT was one of the best pass rushers ever, and the clear leader of the defense.
But he was a liability in both run support, though his backside pursuit was outstanding, and in pass coverage.
DT was never a liability in run support.

He was effectively negated on the rare occasion a team would throw an extra TE out there and then lead block with a FB.

When DT played a lead blocking FB was almost the norm.

Teams would run directly at the most dangerous pass rusher both to wear him out and to make him second guess rushing at the snap of the ball.

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Justin Houston is almost certainly the most complete player at OLB since Bobby Bell, who I still believe is the best overall OLB to have ever played the game.
Without a doubt.
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:01 AM   #6
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DT was never a liability in run support.

He was effectively negated on the rare occasion a team would throw an extra TE out there and then lead block with a FB.

When DT played a lead blocking FB was almost the norm.

Teams would run directly at the most dangerous pass rusher both to wear him out and to make him second guess rushing at the snap of the ball.
But he could be contained if you ran right at him with the fullback as the lead vblocker.

He wasn't able to shed those blocks.
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:04 AM   #7
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But he could be contained if you ran right at him with the fullback as the lead vblocker.

He wasn't able to shed those blocks.
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:08 AM   #8
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But he could be contained if you ran right at him with the fullback as the lead vblocker.

He wasn't able to shed those blocks.
That's what I just said....
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:19 AM   #9
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But he could be contained if you ran right at him with the fullback as the lead vblocker.

He wasn't able to shed those blocks.
So DT could shed blocks of 330 pound linemen, holding him most every play but couldn't shed a block of a fullback- okay.
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DT was never a liability in run support.

He was effectively negated on the rare occasion a team would throw an extra TE out there and then lead block with a FB.

When DT played a lead blocking FB was almost the norm.

Teams would run directly at the most dangerous pass rusher both to wear him out and to make him second guess rushing at the snap of the ball.



Without a doubt.
I am sure there were not too many running backs that liked to get hit by DT. 58 hit Steve Young so hard he pucked his breakfast up on the field and has acknowledge nobody ever hit him harder.

Ever since Blob Gretz invented this-it has taken root. Worst speech ever and it cost DT a first ballot HOF.

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This stood out to me also.

DT was one of the best pass rushers ever, and the clear leader of the defense.
But he was a liability in both run support, though his backside pursuit was outstanding, and in pass coverage.
Justin Houston is almost certainly the most complete player at OLB since Bobby Bell, who I still believe is the best overall OLB to have ever played the game.
Yep and Neil Smith was a liability playing corner back too.
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Yep and Neil Smith was a liability playing corner back too.
Good god, you are a dipshit.
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Good god, you are a dipshit.
Right on time- you post something erroneous as if you are the Football expert of the world- I disagree-then you resort to names.
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