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Old 09-18-2006, 08:28 AM  
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With that gameplan - why not Croyle?

Heading into the Denver game, I was strongly against starting Croyle, as I feared getting him killed (see week 1). However, after seeing the gameplan for Denver, I wonder if that was the right decision.

Huard did nothing that Croyle couldn't have, IMHO - short drops, quick passes, nothing downfield. With that gameplan, Croyle gives us a better chance at winning than Huard, simply based on talent - Croyle has the talent to make plays downfield if needed. Huard didn't blow the game for us (though, that fumble was costly), but he did nothing to win it, either.

After halftime, Huard completed passes totaling 45 yards (37 of that on one play), and ZERO first downs. Yes, Huard was handcuffed, but he did little with the opportunities he was given. I find it real hard to believe Croyle couldn't have topped that.

If Trent isn't back in week 4, I wish the coaching staff would consider starting Croyle (which they won't). They can handcuff him with the same type of gameplan if they want, but when the time comes, they can take some shots, and rely on Croyle's talent to make some plays...
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:21 AM   #31
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I wouldn't be willing to bet on that.
Neither would I. Gore was a great pickup and I dare say Smith is better than Plummer or Huard. Oh and they did just beat the team that beat the team that we just lost to. I still say we win because it's at Arrowhead but this isn't last year's San Fran.
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Old 09-18-2006, 10:27 AM   #32
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I wouldn't be willing to bet on that.
You are one of those glass is half emty guys aren't you
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Old 09-18-2006, 11:28 AM   #33
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And LJ learned a lot from that year, too. LJ did not show patience like he does now. He learned to patiently follow his lead blockers, then explode through the hole from WATCHING Priest.

In the preseason carries he had in his rookie season, he blindly dove into the line. He showed zero patience, and zero explosion.

I still think the only reason LJ didn't play much those first few years was because he pass blocked so terrible. He would miss and almost get Trent killed.

He was in DV's dog house for whatever reason. Couple that with poor blocking and not showing the patience to wait for blocks kept him on the sideline.
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Old 09-18-2006, 11:34 AM   #34
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Old 09-18-2006, 11:43 AM   #35
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It worked pretty well with the Mannings, Rothlisberger.....Compare Eli, Big Ben and Phillip Rivers...All three drafted at the same time and all first rounders. Eli and Ben were tossed in first year and Rivers sat out his first two. Are you telling me Rivers is better off right now than Eli and Rothlisberger?
Those guys were top 11 picks. If this season keeps going downhill, there might be a time to play Croyle. I'm not sure it's game 3 of his first season after he missed half the preseason though. Maybe, but I don't want him to be in over his head. It's easy to say throw him out there and if he struggles bring Huard back, but I don't think that's a good idea.
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Old 09-18-2006, 11:45 AM   #36
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You are one of those glass is half emty guys aren't you
You're one of those douches that have to put everybody into a certain box so you can understand the world aren't you
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Old 09-18-2006, 11:47 AM   #37
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Those guys were top 11 picks.
Yeah but it is still the same concept...It isn't like those guys are a lot smarter or more poised just because they were drafted higher....Different position but look no further than Jarad Page and Benard Pollard...Page is on the field before Pollard despite being a 7th rounder versus Pollard being drafted really high as a 2nd rounder.
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Old 09-18-2006, 11:51 AM   #38
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Isn't Croyle one that gets injured easily? All we need is for our current backup (to the backup) to get injured as well.
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:12 PM   #39
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It worked pretty well with the Mannings, Rothlisberger.....Compare Eli, Big Ben and Phillip Rivers...All three drafted at the same time and all first rounders. Eli and Ben were tossed in first year and Rivers sat out his first two. Are you telling me Rivers is better off right now than Eli and Rothlisberger?
How do JP Losman and Matt Schaub, the other QBs taken in the first 3 rounds that year, fit into your analysis?
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:28 PM   #40
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I'm not ready to give up on the season, but if we are out of it, we need to give the Rookie some playing time. He needs to be taking reps with the first team during the week.
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:35 PM   #41
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I wouldn't be willing to bet on that.
me either. SF looks much improved. It won't be a gimme.
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:53 PM   #42
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Lets hope Randy Cross isn't doing that game.
Doubtful, since it should be a Fox game, and not a very high priority one at that.
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Old 09-18-2006, 02:18 PM   #43
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If Kyle Orton can do it, why can't Brodie Croyle?
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Old 09-18-2006, 02:21 PM   #44
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If Kyle Orton can do it, why can't Brodie Croyle?
Haven't you heard? Croyle's bones are made of balsa wood, his skin is made of wet tissue paper, and his psyche is as delicate as a spring flower.
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:28 PM   #45
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agreed .......... if we are going to run an offensive game plan designed for a rookie QB, why not use the rookie QB.


that offense yesterday was exactly what Herm saw Marty do with phillip rivers in his first game.


run,run,run ....... all passes under 10 "air" yrds



why use a rookie QB game plan with a 10 year veteran?
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