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Old 08-31-2013, 02:53 PM  
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Since our interior O-line sucks......
does Reid attempt to bring in Danny Watkins his 1st rd 2011 pick in hopes that Watkins works out here and improves our O-line thus Reid saves face as well ? Watkins has to be better than Allen/Hudson I would think
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:23 AM   #16
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Word is the reason he's sucked is that he doesn't give a shit about football. If so, hard to justify giving him a roster spot over ANYONE. He probably doesn't even wanna be claimed. I'm sure his 1st round contract had enough guaranteed coin to sort him out for life.
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Old 09-01-2013, 04:59 AM   #17
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Old 09-01-2013, 07:13 AM   #18
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I didn't know our interior O line sucked...
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Old 09-01-2013, 07:47 AM   #19
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No. He's a bust. But Dorsey will have DJ Williams signed soon as our new TE. There's your 53 man roster. (Unless Andy wants Clay Harbor.) Could see the phins pursuing these two as well.
I had forgotten Harbor was a MSU product.... my guess is it's him.
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I didn't know our interior O line sucked...
I haven't seen anything in the preseason to say that it did.

And I have no reason as to why people are concerned with Hudson. He looked absolutely balls out against the Saints and thought he did just fine in the other games.
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Word is the reason he's sucked is that he doesn't give a shit about football. If so, hard to justify giving him a roster spot over ANYONE.
Yes so much so that Reid's first hand conversation with him say's otherwise so 'The Word' must have it wrong AGAIN !
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I haven't seen anything in the preseason to say that it did.

And I have no reason as to why people are concerned with Hudson. He looked absolutely balls out against the Saints and thought he did just fine in the other games.
We ran 70% pass plays this pre-season, did you see the other 30% of run plays just absolutely tear it up or at least dominate and get 4-5yds a pop ? Did you see Hudson/Allen against N.O/San Fran/Pitt ? They got manhandled and why any carries between the tackles went for not. These are upper eschuland D lines especially San Fran if we are going to compete at that level. Pull up the play by play stats of the first half of run plays from the Pitt game and count all the 'No gains' we had. There was only one 11yd run.

Take off your 'homer eyes' and put on some real 'critical objective football eyes'
and go back and watch snap for snap all 3 pre-season 1st team interior O-line play and they pushed NOBODY around whatsoever but rather got pushed back a lot !!

Maybe Watkins can help maybe not, but at least it's trying to fill a need we desperately have IMO.
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Did you See Knile and Jamaal light it up between the tackles this pre-season or at least dominate at 4 to 5 yds a pop this pre-season ? Neither did I
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We ran 70% pass plays this pre-season, did you see the other 30% of run plays just absolutely tear it up or at least dominate and get 4-5yds a pop ? Did you see Hudson/Allen against N.O/San Fran/Pitt ? They got manhandled and why any carries between the tackles went for not. These are upper eschuland D lines especially San Fran if we are going to compete at that level. Pull up the play by play stats of the first half of run plays from the Pitt game and count all the 'No gains' we had. There was only one 11yd run.

Take off your 'homer eyes' and put on some real 'critical objective football eyes'
and go back and watch snap for snap all 3 pre-season 1st team interior O-line play and they pushed NOBODY around whatsoever but rather got pushed back a lot !!

Maybe Watkins can help maybe not, but at least it's trying to fill a need we desperately have IMO.
That's pretty knee jerk if you ask me.

We were running a lot of screens and shit and obvious run plays were obvious.

You also didn't see a lot of pulls or traps by the o-line.

Sorry, but I don't echo your sentiments about the offensive line. The only bad series that they had was the first one with the 49ers. That's it. And I certainly didn't see Hudson getting manhandled like you imply.
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I haven't seen anything in the preseason to say that it did.

And I have no reason as to why people are concerned with Hudson. He looked absolutely balls out against the Saints and thought he did just fine in the other games.
Hudson got worked against the Saints and the 49ers.

The gif that Clay had of Alex Smith not throwing it to DMC in New Orleans was a clear example of Hudson getting his ass kicked.

I'm concerned.
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here's what I was referring to Sac.



Hudson got destroyed here.
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