Football Bruce Arians: Parents who won't let kids play football 'are fools' - Page 3

Deberg_1990 · 03-25-2016, 06:07 AM

What the hell dude??

http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25529381/bruce-arians-parents-who-wont-let-kids-play-football-are-fools

Football is under attack. At least that's the perception for some, especially as we learn more about the effects of concussions on players' long-term health. And Cardinals coach Bruce Arians is tired of hearing about it.

"People that say, 'I won't let my son play [football]' are fools," Arians told TheMMQB.com.

"We have this fear of concussion that is real, but not all of those statistics, I think, can prove anything," he continued, echoing comments made by several NFL owners earlier this week.

“No, that's absurd," Cowboys owner Jerry Jones told the Washington Post about the relationship between chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) and playing football. "There's no data that in any way creates a knowledge. There's no way that you could have made a comment that there is an association and some type of assertion. In most things, you have to back it up by studies. And in this particular case, we all know how medicine is. Medicine is evolving."

Texans owner Bob McNair added, "I think it's an important issue. I'm more concerned about the misconceptions people can have about it than I am about what's really taking place. We're studying this issue closely, more than anyone else. We've put up money for research before anyone else did. Our medical scientists still don't know what the cause of CTE is. It appears that if you've had multiple concussions from whatever you've been doing, riding a bicycle, skateboarding, it's not just football, that there's a possibility it could lead to CTE."

Meanwhile, Arians has nothing but good things to say about football.

"This is the greatest game in the world," he said. "I think it teaches more values than any other game that you play. You have things that happen in your life that aren't going to be good. If you play football, you know how to handle them. It doesn't necessarily equate in track and other things."

Last week, during a roundtable discussion on concussion research with the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, NFL senior VP for Health and Safety Policy Jeff Miller was asked if he thought there was a link between football and CTE.

“The answer to that question is certainly yes," he said.

It was the first time the league publicly acknowledged the link.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-25-2016, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

What the hell dude??

http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...ball-are-fools

Football is under attack. At least that's the perception for some, especially as we learn more about the effects of concussions on players' long-term health. And Cardinals coach Bruce Arians is tired of hearing about it.

"People that say, 'I won't let my son play [football]' are fools," Arians told TheMMQB.com.

"We have this fear of concussion that is real, but not all of those statistics, I think, can prove anything," he continued, echoing comments made by several NFL owners earlier this week.

“No, that's absurd," Cowboys owner Jerry Jones told the Washington Post about the relationship between chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) and playing football. "There's no data that in any way creates a knowledge. There's no way that you could have made a comment that there is an association and some type of assertion. In most things, you have to back it up by studies. And in this particular case, we all know how medicine is. Medicine is evolving."

Texans owner Bob McNair added, "I think it's an important issue. I'm more concerned about the misconceptions people can have about it than I am about what's really taking place. We're studying this issue closely, more than anyone else. We've put up money for research before anyone else did. Our medical scientists still don't know what the cause of CTE is. It appears that if you've had multiple concussions from whatever you've been doing, riding a bicycle, skateboarding, it's not just football, that there's a possibility it could lead to CTE."

Meanwhile, Arians has nothing but good things to say about football.

"This is the greatest game in the world," he said. "I think it teaches more values than any other game that you play. You have things that happen in your life that aren't going to be good. If you play football, you know how to handle them. It doesn't necessarily equate in track and other things."

Last week, during a roundtable discussion on concussion research with the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, NFL senior VP for Health and Safety Policy Jeff Miller was asked if he thought there was a link between football and CTE.

“The answer to that question is certainly yes," he said.

It was the first time the league publicly acknowledged the link.

Keep digging your own grave, dumb****s.

**Buehler445** · 03-25-2016, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Keep digging your own grave, dumb****s.

LOL. And Ariens shows up with a backhoe.

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-25-2016, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

The story you typed before you removed it didn't match this story. I smell bullshit.

whoops. What did the original say? You got some splainin to do brucey.

brucey_72 · 03-25-2016, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

whoops. What did the original say? You got some splainin to do brucey.

It was the same story... only difference was I typed the 1st one on my phone without much detail. I went back and found l my detailed version copied and paste it.

In the original post I didn't mention I got my final concussion from Rugby. Which was bc I was tired of typing on my phone.

Original post said I got a few concussions during football which lead to the issues I live with today. Oh God forbid I went and found the more detailed version.

Just sharing my story bc this thread is talking about concussions

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-25-2016, 02:32 PM

Well shame on wolf then.

**LoneWolf** · 03-25-2016, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by brucey_72

It was the same story... only difference was I typed the 1st one on my phone without much detail. I went back and found l my detailed version copied and paste it.

In the original post I didn't mention I got my final concussion from Rugby. Which was bc I was tired of typing on my phone.

Original post said I got a few concussions during football which lead to the issues I live with today. Oh God forbid I went and found the more detailed version.

Just sharing my story bc this thread is talking about concussions

Where were you living when you got hurt for the final time. I still think you're full of shit.

brucey_72 · 03-25-2016, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Where were you living when you got hurt for the final time. I still think you're full of shit.

Good for you... why?? We don't even know each other. I am not going to argue with someone I don't know and will never meet about something in my personal life. The point of my post was to point out reality of concussions and why I wouldn't let my son (dont have a son have 2 daughters) play football. I am not looking for sympathy or even trying to debate anybody about concussions.

I just don't understand why you calling someone a liar who you don't know about an aspect of their personal life on a messageboard. Do you just like arguing with people??

I will not respond to anymore messages about this bc it is pointless. Also fyi I was in college playing backyard rugby with a group of friends/classmates on the rugby field looking for ways to kill Sat mornings and learn a new sport

kccrow · 03-25-2016, 03:41 PM

I played football until age 27 when I experienced my 3rd concussion. That was enough for me. It goes beyond just concussions, with the back and knee tweaks on a weekly basis.

I never had a concussion in high school football though. I think that I'd let my boys play, but I wouldn't advocate that they try to go beyond that. It'd be their choice and I'd make them well aware of what the future would hold.

**LoneWolf** · 03-25-2016, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

No, it doesn't. Your second statement is also untrue.

OK. Name another sport that teaches those two things as well as football.

Deberg_1990 · 03-25-2016, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by brucey_72

Good for you... why?? We don't even know each other. I am not going to argue with someone I don't know and will never meet about something in my personal life. The point of my post was to point out reality of concussions and why I wouldn't let my son (dont have a son have 2 daughters) play football. I am not looking for sympathy or even trying to debate anybody about concussions.

I just don't understand why you calling someone a liar who you don't know about an aspect of their personal life on a messageboard. Do you just like arguing with people??

I will not respond to anymore messages about this bc it is pointless.

Thank you for sharing your story.

Dont let a few Jackholes run you off.

**LoneWolf** · 03-25-2016, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Thank you for sharing your story.

Dont let a few Jackholes run you off.

Did you see his original story? If not, then shut the **** up.

brucey_72 · 03-25-2016, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Did you see his original story? If not, then shut the **** up.

What is different? Yes I left out that I got another concussion playing backyard rugby in college. . Who cares? Doesn't change the fact I got concussions playing football. In high school I got a few concussions with one leaving me unconscious with little contact, that started causing me to have issues. I was still stupid enough to play backyard rugby and got another concussion.

So to wrap it up for you. I got 3 concussions in High School. Last one knocked me out and caused temporary swelling on the brain. Which caused me to have shakes and other issues. Went to college was stupid and got another one playing backyard rugby which lead to bleeding on the brain.

Last one was completely my fault and has been the main reason for my problems. I was stupid like a lot of people bc I didn't think concussions were serious at the time.

**LoneWolf** · 03-25-2016, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by brucey_72

What is different? Yes I left out that I got another concussion playing backyard rugby in college. . Who cares? Doesn't change the fact I got concussions playing football. In high school I got a few concussions with one leaving me unconscious with little contact, that started causing me to have issues. I was still stupid enough to play backyard rugby and got another concussion.

So to wrap it up for you. I got 3 concussions in High School. Last one knocked me out and caused temporary swelling on the brain. Which caused me to have shakes and other issues. Went to college was stupid and got another one playing backyard rugby which lead to bleeding on the brain.

Last one was completely my fault and has been the main reason for my problems. I was stupid like a lot of people bc I didn't think concussions were serious at the time.

You got a concussion bad enough at the age of fifteen that it left you unconscious from light contact in a walk through, but continued to play football without incident? So you are saying that you played three more years of football without incident and then hurt yourself playing rugby? Sounds like complete bullshit.

Have you ever lived in West Unity or Montpelier?

**DaFace** · 03-25-2016, 04:30 PM

It's been a while since this guy has made an appearance.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 03-25-2016, 04:31 PM

In my playing days of a few sports (football/baseball in HS, basketball before that) I can say for me PERSONALLY.... no sport provided more character building like football did nor did any other teach me to always push myself to my limits like football did. That may not be the same for everyone else, but for me it was like that and because I was fortunate to only suffer one concussion over the course of playing contact football for 9 years, I didn't get some of the harsher consequences that some others would.

But I'll put it this way. I have multiple buddies from high school, more than I can count on one hand, who have told me over and over how much they regret not playing the sport.

It's easy for a lot of guys to say "You know, I don't think I want to fool with it (football), it's too much work and far too time consuming." It's what many do, and really it comes down to being lazy of course.

But man, that grind is what makes it such a special game. Regardless of how hard you work at baseball, basketball, etc., none of those grinds compare to the one with football in my experience. It feels like such a tighter brotherhood than anything else. Not that those sports aren't great too, but they didn't have the same lasting impact on me.

I'll always miss getting to strap up and play the game of football, and if I'm lucky enough to have a son, I'll let him decide what direction he goes with it after weighing the pros and cons. But I damn sure won't let him walk away from the game for fear of the grind that goes into a season, cause it is those regrets I hear about all the time.

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Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	Bruce Arians: Parents who won't let kids play football 'are fools' What the hell dude?? http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25529381/bruce-arians-parents-who-wont-let-kids-play-football-are-fools Football is under attack. At least that's the perception for some, especially as we learn more about the effects of concussions on players' long-term health. And Cardinals coach Bruce Arians is tired of hearing about it. "People that say, 'I won't let my son play [football]' are fools," Arians told TheMMQB.com. "We have this fear of concussion that is real, but not all of those statistics, I think, can prove anything," he continued, echoing comments made by several NFL owners earlier this week. “No, that's absurd," Cowboys owner Jerry Jones told the Washington Post about the relationship between chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) and playing football. "There's no data that in any way creates a knowledge. There's no way that you could have made a comment that there is an association and some type of assertion. In most things, you have to back it up by studies. And in this particular case, we all know how medicine is. Medicine is evolving." Texans owner Bob McNair added, "I think it's an important issue. I'm more concerned about the misconceptions people can have about it than I am about what's really taking place. We're studying this issue closely, more than anyone else. We've put up money for research before anyone else did. Our medical scientists still don't know what the cause of CTE is. It appears that if you've had multiple concussions from whatever you've been doing, riding a bicycle, skateboarding, it's not just football, that there's a possibility it could lead to CTE." Meanwhile, Arians has nothing but good things to say about football. "This is the greatest game in the world," he said. "I think it teaches more values than any other game that you play. You have things that happen in your life that aren't going to be good. If you play football, you know how to handle them. It doesn't necessarily equate in track and other things." Last week, during a roundtable discussion on concussion research with the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, NFL senior VP for Health and Safety Policy Jeff Miller was asked if he thought there was a link between football and CTE. “The answer to that question is certainly yes," he said. It was the first time the league publicly acknowledged the link.
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pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $9149447	In my playing days of a few sports (football/baseball in HS, basketball before that) I can say for me PERSONALLY.... no sport provided more character building like football did nor did any other teach me to always push myself to my limits like football did. That may not be the same for everyone else, but for me it was like that and because I was fortunate to only suffer one concussion over the course of playing contact football for 9 years, I didn't get some of the harsher consequences that some others would. But I'll put it this way. I have multiple buddies from high school, more than I can count on one hand, who have told me over and over how much they regret not playing the sport. It's easy for a lot of guys to say "You know, I don't think I want to fool with it (football), it's too much work and far too time consuming." It's what many do, and really it comes down to being lazy of course. But man, that grind is what makes it such a special game. Regardless of how hard you work at baseball, basketball, etc., none of those grinds compare to the one with football in my experience. It feels like such a tighter brotherhood than anything else. Not that those sports aren't great too, but they didn't have the same lasting impact on me. I'll always miss getting to strap up and play the game of football, and if I'm lucky enough to have a son, I'll let him decide what direction he goes with it after weighing the pros and cons. But I damn sure won't let him walk away from the game for fear of the grind that goes into a season, cause it is those regrets I hear about all the time.
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