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Old 10-09-2014, 12:36 PM  
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Eric Berry
We know what it's going to cost to keep him. Question is he worth the money? Has this defense missed him?

I think there's a noticeable difference without Berry against the run. The pass defense looks similar though.

For a team in cap trouble I don't think Berry is a must re-sign guy.
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Old 10-09-2014, 02:15 PM   #61
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Yet Abdullah is better than Berry?
Athletically, there's no question that Berry is in a class or two above him and has the physical potential to make more big plays than Abdullah has made.

However, when you just look at their performance on the field, they aren't that far apart and certainly not $7+ million a year apart, and I think that's the main argument to be made. Abdullah makes up for his lack of elite athleticism with his technical discipline, football intelligence, and instincts in coverage and run support.

Let's put it this way.

If both were to get close to the same contract, no question that I would take Eric Berry over Abdullah. I prefer highly athletic safeties simply because they have more range and have a better chance to recover if they take a misstep or get fooled a bit by misdirection.

But if we're paying them like we are now, Abdullah at roughly $1.1 mil a year and Berry at roughly $8.4 mil a year, the product on the field from Berry just isn't worth $7+ mil more than what Abdullah brings to the table. I'd rather take that money and put it in a starting caliber CB, impact DE, etc.

That's what it really boils down to for me. Others may think differently.
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Old 10-09-2014, 02:27 PM   #62
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He really did. Most of those catches were for a 1st down. Fleener just smoked him on the TD.

Do you have a gif of said play?

I could have sworn we were in zone on that TD.
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Old 10-09-2014, 02:30 PM   #63
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Another waste of a top 5 pick. He's no Earl Thomas.
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Old 10-09-2014, 02:32 PM   #64
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Do you have a gif of said play?

I could have sworn we were in zone on that TD.
Are we talking about Fleeners TD in the playoffs? If that's the case then they were in a zone and Berry wasn't even playing on the same hashes.

Would it surprise you that OldSchool is a dumbass?
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Another waste of a top 5 pick. He's no Earl Thomas.
Earl Thomas is overrated.
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Another waste of a top 5 pick. He's no Earl Thomas.
He was a great pick under shitty coaching and management. Still is.
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Old 10-09-2014, 02:33 PM   #67
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Or the fact that Abdullah is a SS, not a FS.
It's pretty silly for people to try and describe KC's safeties as simply either Free or Strong Safeties.



On the first SF drive last week, you can watch Abdullah play ILB, deep 1/3, quarters, and as the force player in cover 3.
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Are we talking about Fleeners TD in the playoffs? If that's the case then they were in a zone and Berry wasn't even playing on the same hashes.



Would it surprise you that OldSchool is a dumbass?

Heh.

Yep. Thank you.
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Heh.

Yep. Thank you.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/indianapol...yard-touchdown

The safety that was playing in the area of the catch was none other than Kendrick Lewis.
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Do you have a gif of said play?

I could have sworn we were in zone on that TD.
It was zone, Berry took a really shitty angle and Lewis was on Hilton.
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It's pretty silly for people to try and describe KC's safeties as simply either Free or Strong Safeties.



On the first SF drive last week, you can watch Abdullah play ILB, deep 1/3, quarters, and as the force player in cover 3.
Hence why it wold behoove s to have a multitude of athletic safeties
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Are we talking about Fleeners TD in the playoffs? If that's the case then they were in a zone and Berry wasn't even playing on the same hashes.

Would it surprise you that OldSchool is a dumbass?
Berry was playing deep thirds and was in position to make a play, the pass was right down the seam. He didn't **** up by taking a poor angle?

Ok.
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Berry was playing deep thirds and was in position to make a play, the pass was right down the seam. He didn't **** up by taking a poor angle?

Ok.
Watch the link you dumb ****.

Berry has NO chance at making a play. The safety in the area was Lewis and he has no ****ing clue about whats going on.
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Berry was playing deep thirds and was in position to make a play, the pass was right down the seam. He didn't **** up by taking a poor angle?

Ok.
There are two deep safeties. Not deep thirds
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It's pretty silly for people to try and describe KC's safeties as simply either Free or Strong Safeties.



On the first SF drive last week, you can watch Abdullah play ILB, deep 1/3, quarters, and as the force player in cover 3.
95% of the people on this board have no idea what they are looking at.

Clueless about gap responsibilities, coverages, and most certainly blocking schemes.

They would make excellent PFF analysts.
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