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Old 11-26-2012, 12:23 PM   #1
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Just saw Palmer on Espn ... He says that statistically, Aaron Murray has been the most efficient QB in college football this year.



i'm not pushing for Murray ... just repeating what i hear.
I could learn to like the guy if I knew more about him. It doesn't exactly sell me that his team has been doing well with the most lethal running game in college football and a top 5 defense.

I know he has a good history and can make most throws. I'm not saying he's Greg McElroy. I would have liked to see him flash more this season, that's all.
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:33 PM   #2
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I could learn to like the guy if I knew more about him. It doesn't exactly sell me that his team has been doing well with the most lethal running game in college football and a top 5 defense.

I know he has a good history and can make most throws. I'm not saying he's Greg McElroy. I would have liked to see him flash more this season, that's all.
I've watched a lot of Murray last year, not so much this year.

Probably not worthy of the #1 pick but I would have him right behind Wilson.
1. Geno
2. Wilson
3. Murray
4. Nassib
5. Bray/ Barkley
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:08 PM   #3
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I've watched a lot of Murray last year, not so much this year.

Probably not worthy of the #1 pick but I would have him right behind Wilson.
1. Geno
2. Wilson
3. Murray
4. Nassib
5. Bray/ Barkley
that's my 1 and 2 as well

Bray is a project imo

Barkley reminds me too much of Cassel. Maybe it's just the USC stuff that freaks me out. Dunno.


don't know enough about Murray,Nassib or Glennon tbh
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:17 PM   #4
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that's my 1 and 2 as well

Bray is a project imo

Barkley reminds me too much of Cassel. Maybe it's just the USC stuff that freaks me out. Dunno.


don't know enough about Murray,Nassib or Glennon tbh
Bray is definitely a project. Great arm, ok decision making (not elite but typically not horrible).

Murray/Nassib intrigue me due to their pocket presence. I really like Nassib's release, movement within the pocket, and ability to look downfield. He struggles with touch and sometimes gets happy feet, but usually looks good for the most part.

I haven't watched Glennon at all, so I can't speak to that guy other than BlackBob champions him.
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:19 PM   #5
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that's my 1 and 2 as well

Bray is a project imo

Barkley reminds me too much of Cassel. Maybe it's just the USC stuff that freaks me out. Dunno.


don't know enough about Murray,Nassib or Glennon tbh
Nassib is a good looking QB. He was the best QB on the field during the Syracuse/USC game earlier this year. Easily.

Already owns most Syracuse passing records, eclipsing Donovan McNabb in most of them.

I would have like to have seen him in the top of the third for the Chiefs, but I'm thinking that he'll end up moving up into the mid-second round at this point.

Murray you want to like, but he just goes to complete shit under pressure. Chokes shit off like Rocco Siffredi. And he's short. Probably will measure under 6'0" officially.

If the Chiefs get Geno in the first (pretty please!!!!), I'd really like to see them grab either Nassib or Lance Jones in the third/fourth. Jones, while he gets a lot of shit around here, has all the tools and is playing a lot better to end this season.

Glennon forces his throws way too much. Big arm with decent mobility for a guy his size, but he's way too inaccurate when he has to make a throw downfield and there's any defender within five yards.
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:55 PM   #6
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I could learn to like the guy if I knew more about him. It doesn't exactly sell me that his team has been doing well with the most lethal running game in college football and a top 5 defense.

I know he has a good history and can make most throws. I'm not saying he's Greg McElroy. I would have liked to see him flash more this season, that's all.
And Geno has? LOL
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:53 PM   #7
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Just saw Palmer on Espn ... He says that statistically, Aaron Murray has been the most efficient QB in college football this year.



i'm not pushing for Murray ... just repeating what i hear.
Look at Georgia's schedule. They've had it very easy for being in the SEC East. No Alabama, no LSU, no A&M.

Here's what Murray did against the two ranked teams they've played:

@ South Carolina
11-31 (35.5%) 109yds 0 TD 1 INT 58.6 Rating
vs. Florida
12-24 (50%) 150yds 1 TD 3 INT 91.3 Rating

In all other games combined:

190-265 (71.7%) 29 TD 3 INT 202.1 Rating
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Old 11-26-2012, 12:57 PM   #8
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Look at Georgia's schedule. They've had it very easy for being in the SEC East. No Alabama, no LSU, no A&M.

Here's what Murray did against the two ranked teams they've played:

@ South Carolina
11-31 (35.5%) 109yds 0 TD 1 INT 58.6 Rating
vs. Florida
12-24 (50%) 150yds 1 TD 3 INT 91.3 Rating

In all other games combined:

190-265 (71.7%) 29 TD 3 INT 202.1 Rating


Geno had 1 good game vs a top 25 team.
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:10 PM   #9
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Geno had 1 good game vs a top 25 team.
So 1 more than Aaron Murray.
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:37 PM   #10
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Geno had 1 good game vs a top 25 team.
LOTS of guys went through this in college. It's STILL a team game.
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:38 PM   #11
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LOTS of guys went through this in college. It's STILL a team game.
I agree with this so i don't get why people call out Murray then.
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Look at Georgia's schedule. They've had it very easy for being in the SEC East. No Alabama, no LSU, no A&M.

Here's what Murray did against the two ranked teams they've played:

@ South Carolina
11-31 (35.5%) 109yds 0 TD 1 INT 58.6 Rating
vs. Florida
12-24 (50%) 150yds 1 TD 3 INT 91.3 Rating

In all other games combined:

190-265 (71.7%) 29 TD 3 INT 202.1 Rating
What kind or ****ed up system gives a QB a 91.3 rating after throwing 3 picks and going 12-24?
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What kind or ****ed up system gives a QB a 91.3 rating after throwing 3 picks and going 12-24?
College & NFL QB rating systems are not the same.

A 91.3 QB rating in college is not good. This is evident when you look at his average rating over the other 10 games Georgia played - 202.1.
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Old 11-26-2012, 04:50 PM   #14
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College & NFL QB rating systems are not the same.

A 91.3 QB rating in college is not good. This is evident when you look at his average rating over the other 10 games Georgia played - 202.1.
Thanks.....I didn't know that
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:11 PM   #15
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I like Murray a lot and have talked about him this year from time to time. His upside isn't like Geno's, but his floor is higher.

He'd be a fantastic get in the second round, but this likely does very little good for the Chiefs.
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