Chiefs Chiefs Defense...Fluke or For Real?? - Page 4

**petegz28** · 09-26-2010, 06:28 PM

I say for real. How long does one need to go into the regular season before you call something legit?

Throughout the pre-season, despite the babblings of people like Kent Babb, the defense held teams to little points. Thus far in the regular season we have allowed a total of 38 points in 3 games. For the math challenged that is a whopping 12.67 points a game. Ok, it's really 12.66666666666667.

Tons of sacks? Nope save today against SF.
Tons of turnovers? Not a ton but improved from last year.

How is it getting done? Run defense and disciplined coverage. And they are doing it with 2 rookies in the secondary.

Teams are not running the ball against the Chiefs. The secondary inspite of a few rookie mistakes is not giving up the big play and forcing a ton of checkdowns and throw-aways.
And the most improved aspect of the defense this year, imo, is tackling. These guys are not just tackling they are hitting. They look like the Chiefs of old. Controlled Chaos is how I describe the defense right now.

Now granted we have not faced offensive powers except for the Chargers and it was on a rainy, sloppy field. But even then and even when it wasn't raining San Diego was not running on the Chiefs and were pressuring Rivers fairly regularly.

Today facing what Brian Billick called "the most respected RB in the NFL" in Frank Gore the Chiefs shut the door on him. Sf coming off a terrific game against the Saints had high hopes of picking on an overrated 2-0 team in the Chiefs and they found that maybe the Chiefs aren't quite so overrated? Especially on defense.

I say this defense if for real. I think we will see the sacks continue to come though sacks are not always as important as getting the QB to force a bad decision which can easily end up in the hands of Brandon Flowers.

DJ right now is playing at a levle that would put him up among the top LB's in the game today. Flowers is arguably one of the best CB's in the league.

FlaChief58 · 09-26-2010, 10:02 PM

They are deffinatly for real. Not elite yet but getting there. The 2 weeks following the bye will tell us just how good they are. Romeo has our boys on the right track.

Brock · 09-26-2010, 10:03 PM

A boatload of first round picks playing up to their paychecks. It should be good. Crennel deserves all the credit, plush some more for making the Smiths and Edwards into players.

Sully · 09-26-2010, 10:10 PM

I just thought of an interesting theory to add to an old one of mine...

My old theory; the plan all along was for Romeo to sit out a year. ThTs why we hire a DC that has just been fired.

Add to that; how much advantage is it to a guy to know where and who he is coaching for a full year? To be able to really sit back and process how you are going to use these tools, without having to worry about the week-to-week grind of the season? To actually have a huge knowledge base of your team, plus that added "creative thinking" time that most coaches aren't afforded? I can't think of something similar ever happening in the NFL, but it'd be, IMO, a he'll of an advantage.

**Iowanian** · 09-26-2010, 10:11 PM

We'll sure as shit find out about this defense in the 2 weeks following the Bye. Indy and Houston BOTH have some big time offenses.

If the Chiefs can hold those teams to reasonable numbers, I'd say you have your answer.

With 2 weeks to rest and prepare for Indy, if Indy hangs 500 yards, I'd say it's been more a product of 1-8 opponents.

I do like what I've seen so far and I'm encouraged, but my bad girlfriend still doesn't let me trust her.

**The Bad Guy** · 09-26-2010, 10:14 PM

The thing is, Manning is likely to carve us up because that's what he does to teams at home. The offense just needs to take advantage of their opportunities.

With Andre Johnson ailing, we have a real shot at beating Houston.

Hootie · 09-26-2010, 10:19 PM

today was awesome...

the coaching staff showed me a ton...

That onside kick...the trick Wildcat play...omg...it was amazing

our defense is for real and I honestly think it helps having a black coordinator...an established on at that...who players will play hard for...for real. Players want to perform for Romeo...good coach...good guy...

We have heart...we have discipline...we're a GOOD football team...and very well coached.

Happiest I've been in 10 years.

Hootie · 09-26-2010, 10:19 PM

I don't think we have a shot at beating Indy...not one bit...to be honest, I think we'll lose by 10+...maybe 20+

**KcMizzou** · 09-26-2010, 10:20 PM

I'm just going to bask in the glow of sweet, sweet division leading victory over the bye week, and root against the rest of the AFCW. I'll start worrying about Indy next Monday.

Brock · 09-26-2010, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

I don't think we have a shot at beating Indy...not one bit...to be honest, I think we'll lose by 10+...maybe 20+

Let the dream live a little bit.

Hootie · 09-26-2010, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock

Let the dream live a little bit.

I'm no mecca...

you shoulda seen me today

happiest I've been in 10 years...

our waitress came up to me when I was standing up by the TV watching the game...and told me she wished she had as much passion about something as I do with the Chiefs...says she thinks it's hilarious to watch me every week explode at the TV...

I just can't help it...

I LOVE THE CHIEFS

Coach · 09-26-2010, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

The thing is, Manning is likely to carve us up because that's what he does to teams at home. The offense just needs to take advantage of their opportunities.

With Andre Johnson ailing, we have a real shot at beating Houston.

Is the Texan's LT also suspended for 4 games as well?

Skyy God · 09-26-2010, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach

Is the Texan's LT also suspended for 4 games as well?

Theoretically, but I'm not sure if and how long the appeal process will take.

Hammock Parties · 09-26-2010, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

our defense is for real and I honestly think it helps having a black coordinator...an established on at that...who players will play hard for...for real. Players want to perform for Romeo...good coach...good guy...

Whitlock retired too early.

Hootie · 09-26-2010, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Whitlock retired too early.

I'm not kidding man...

I love the fact Romeo is awesome, and I like that he's black...

I think black players will play harder for black coaches...

I really do.

I truly think those guys don't want to let Romeo down...guys like DJ...for sure.

It's so fun to watch our defense now...knowing they can score on every play...and Flowers...wow...he very well might get the whole "Revis" treatment in the media this year...every time he made a play today I made sure to keep yelling...

D P O Y!

Hammock Parties · 09-26-2010, 10:45 PM

Maybe Romeo is the father figure DJ needed.

(his pops passed away a few years ago)

09-26-2010, 06:28 PM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $2684127	Chiefs Defense...Fluke or For Real?? I say for real. How long does one need to go into the regular season before you call something legit? Throughout the pre-season, despite the babblings of people like Kent Babb, the defense held teams to little points. Thus far in the regular season we have allowed a total of 38 points in 3 games. For the math challenged that is a whopping 12.67 points a game. Ok, it's really 12.66666666666667. Tons of sacks? Nope save today against SF. Tons of turnovers? Not a ton but improved from last year. How is it getting done? Run defense and disciplined coverage. And they are doing it with 2 rookies in the secondary. Teams are not running the ball against the Chiefs. The secondary inspite of a few rookie mistakes is not giving up the big play and forcing a ton of checkdowns and throw-aways. And the most improved aspect of the defense this year, imo, is tackling. These guys are not just tackling they are hitting. They look like the Chiefs of old. Controlled Chaos is how I describe the defense right now. Now granted we have not faced offensive powers except for the Chargers and it was on a rainy, sloppy field. But even then and even when it wasn't raining San Diego was not running on the Chiefs and were pressuring Rivers fairly regularly. Today facing what Brian Billick called "the most respected RB in the NFL" in Frank Gore the Chiefs shut the door on him. Sf coming off a terrific game against the Saints had high hopes of picking on an overrated 2-0 team in the Chiefs and they found that maybe the Chiefs aren't quite so overrated? Especially on defense. I say this defense if for real. I think we will see the sacks continue to come though sacks are not always as important as getting the QB to force a bad decision which can easily end up in the hands of Brandon Flowers. DJ right now is playing at a levle that would put him up among the top LB's in the game today. Flowers is arguably one of the best CB's in the league.
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09-26-2010, 10:02 PM	#46
FlaChief58 SuperChiefs Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Florida Casino cash: $2149822	They are deffinatly for real. Not elite yet but getting there. The 2 weeks following the bye will tell us just how good they are. Romeo has our boys on the right track.
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09-26-2010, 10:03 PM	#47
Brock Say hello to my little friend Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $9598422	A boatload of first round picks playing up to their paychecks. It should be good. Crennel deserves all the credit, plush some more for making the Smiths and Edwards into players.
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09-26-2010, 10:10 PM	#48
Sully It Goes On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $10026331	I just thought of an interesting theory to add to an old one of mine... My old theory; the plan all along was for Romeo to sit out a year. ThTs why we hire a DC that has just been fired. Add to that; how much advantage is it to a guy to know where and who he is coaching for a full year? To be able to really sit back and process how you are going to use these tools, without having to worry about the week-to-week grind of the season? To actually have a huge knowledge base of your team, plus that added "creative thinking" time that most coaches aren't afforded? I can't think of something similar ever happening in the NFL, but it'd be, IMO, a he'll of an advantage. __________________ "And I don't wish that girl any bad luck," he said, "but I hope she gets hit with a car." - Tommy Lasorda
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09-26-2010, 10:11 PM	#49
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $4708454	We'll sure as shit find out about this defense in the 2 weeks following the Bye. Indy and Houston BOTH have some big time offenses. If the Chiefs can hold those teams to reasonable numbers, I'd say you have your answer. With 2 weeks to rest and prepare for Indy, if Indy hangs 500 yards, I'd say it's been more a product of 1-8 opponents. I do like what I've seen so far and I'm encouraged, but my bad girlfriend still doesn't let me trust her.
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09-26-2010, 10:14 PM	#50
The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9373645	The thing is, Manning is likely to carve us up because that's what he does to teams at home. The offense just needs to take advantage of their opportunities. With Andre Johnson ailing, we have a real shot at beating Houston. __________________
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09-26-2010, 10:19 PM	#51
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	today was awesome... the coaching staff showed me a ton... That onside kick...the trick Wildcat play...omg...it was amazing our defense is for real and I honestly think it helps having a black coordinator...an established on at that...who players will play hard for...for real. Players want to perform for Romeo...good coach...good guy... We have heart...we have discipline...we're a GOOD football team...and very well coached. Happiest I've been in 10 years.
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09-26-2010, 10:20 PM	#53
KcMizzou Supporter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Parkville MO Casino cash: $10005170	I'm just going to bask in the glow of sweet, sweet division leading victory over the bye week, and root against the rest of the AFCW. I'll start worrying about Indy next Monday.
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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4600478	Maybe Romeo is the father figure DJ needed. (his pops passed away a few years ago) __________________ Chiefs game films
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