Tony Gonzalez's Value - Page 2

jspchief · 10-15-2006, 07:57 PM

Gonzo is up for a contract at the end of 2006. After watching him the last few years, I wonder what his value really is to this team. He seems to lack the playmaking ability he once had. Yea, he's still one of the best TEs in the game. But he's no longer a substitute for a WR like he has been for us over the years. He's not particularly fast, he doesn't break a lot of tackles, and to be honest he doesn't have the greatest hands anymore. He's not some nightmare for defensive coordinators any longer.

I'm just beginning to wonder how much he's really worth to this team. In the past he was a guy you could rely on when other facets of our offense struggled. Now he's just another piece that only seems to work when everything else is working.

If Gonzo comes looking for a contract that puts him in the top 5 of the pay scale for TEs, is he still worth it?

jspchief · 10-15-2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I don't think that's true at all. He's just not getting open. The dude was almost unstoppable in Grbac's last two years.

His decline started last year and now he is nothing special. He is no longer an elite player.

That's just the thing. There was a time when everyone knew Gonzo was going to get the ball, and yet he was still able to get it. Now he gets shut down regularly, and to be honest he drops a lot of balls that he used to catch. I'm just not sure where him and a new contract will fit on this offense. He's no longer a substitution for a WR that he once was.

Knob · 10-15-2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana

What we really need is a good LT. I would trade TG for a great LT in a heart beat.

Any idea on the top LT's out of college this year? I don't follow college too often.

**Bwana** · 10-15-2006, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

Good LTs are traded about as often as franchise qbs.

No shit

**Bwana** · 10-15-2006, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob

Any idea on the top LT's out of college this year? I don't follow college too often.

I'm in he same boat Rob, I don't follow it much. I know there are a few guys on here that do and could answer that question. Draft guru's if you will.

**Iowanian** · 10-15-2006, 08:26 PM

I think there are alot more needs for this team than a high dollar, over 30 TE.

Thanks for your time....

Halfcan · 10-15-2006, 08:58 PM

Gonzo is not going anywhere-he will retire a Chief.

milkman · 10-15-2006, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana

I'm in he same boat Rob, I don't follow it much. I know there are a few guys on here that do and could answer that question. Draft guru's if you will.

Joe Thomas from Wisconsin will probably be a a top ten pick, but the guy that should be right around where I would expect us to pick is Sam Baker out of USC.

He could be anchor at LT for years.

**Bwana** · 10-15-2006, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Joe Thomas from Wisconsin will probably be a a top ten pick, but the guy that should be right around where I would expect us to pick is Sam Baker out of USC.

He could be anchor at LT for years.

We could sure use a great LT.

Halfcan · 10-15-2006, 09:11 PM

We need to rebuild both lines.

**The Bad Guy** · 10-15-2006, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

We need to rebuild both lines.

Re-build?

Not even close with the D-line.

The Chiefs need one stable DT. They are set at end for the next 5 years as long as they re-sign Allen.

The Chiefs shouldn't pay TG like he thinks he should be paid. Dude has fallen off big time. I hope Carl doesn't get stupid with him.

TRR · 10-15-2006, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Re-build?

Not even close with the D-line.

The Chiefs need one stable DT. They are set at end for the next 5 years as long as they re-sign Allen.

The Chiefs shouldn't pay TG like he thinks he should be paid. Dude has fallen off big time. I hope Carl doesn't get stupid with him.

I agree Bad Guy. I am happy with Hali, Allen (if he can stay out of trouble) and James Reed. However, If KC had a stud DT like a John Henderson, or a Tommy Harris, then our D Line would be set. We are a healthy Trent Green, a solid LT, and a stud DT away from being a tough team to beat.

I don't put much into this game today. The Steelers were itching to break out, and on the road without your starting Pro Bowl QB, and your Pro Bowl kick/punt return guy, your bound to struggle against he ex-champs. I look for KC to rebound, and come hard at SD next week.

PastorMikH · 10-15-2006, 09:33 PM

I'd have to agree with the sentiments that Tony isn't worth a lot of cash at this point. He's missed a good number of balls - that he used to catch - that had he caught them, would have really helped the team this season. If he wants to sign a contract that will allow him to retire in KC and also help KC have money for signing some younger playmakers then fine. If he wants a payday, let someone else pay him.

**Bowser** · 10-15-2006, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

That's just the thing. There was a time when everyone knew Gonzo was going to get the ball, and yet he was still able to get it. Now he gets shut down regularly, and to be honest he drops a lot of balls that he used to catch. I'm just not sure where him and a new contract will fit on this offense. He's no longer a substitution for a WR that he once was.

Is it his fault, though? Tony does all he's asked to do, including stay in and block. And as far as the hands go, he's really always been hot or cold with his catches. He'll drop gimmies, then make an ubelievable snag.

I know it's been talked to death, but the reason Tony is struggling in the pass game is because Willie Roaf bailed out on the team on the eve of training camp. Willie solidified the left side along with Waters. You couldn't find a better left side of the O-Line anywhere in the league the last 2+years. Not only would that insure that Trent has that extra 1-2 seconds to find an open Gonzo, Roaf was a roadgrater as a run blocker. 8 or 9 guys in the box to stop LJ, Tony is open. Third and long, Trent usually had the time to wait for Tony to get open.

And perhaps this foot injury he's battled has taken more of a toll than what he's let on, as well. Add all that up, and you come up with a good TE, not an All-World TE.

dr00d · 10-15-2006, 11:44 PM

sucks, get rid of him...bring in someone who can catch a ball

Florida_Bronco · 10-15-2006, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Gonzo is built for an offense where he is not required to be the main receiving threat. He'd be ideal in a place like Denver (gulp) or a place where they have a premier wideout and RB.

No thanks, we already got our TE of the future.

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jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	Tony Gonzalez's Value Gonzo is up for a contract at the end of 2006. After watching him the last few years, I wonder what his value really is to this team. He seems to lack the playmaking ability he once had. Yea, he's still one of the best TEs in the game. But he's no longer a substitute for a WR like he has been for us over the years. He's not particularly fast, he doesn't break a lot of tackles, and to be honest he doesn't have the greatest hands anymore. He's not some nightmare for defensive coordinators any longer. I'm just beginning to wonder how much he's really worth to this team. In the past he was a guy you could rely on when other facets of our offense struggled. Now he's just another piece that only seems to work when everything else is working. If Gonzo comes looking for a contract that puts him in the top 5 of the pay scale for TEs, is he still worth it?
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dr00d Starter Join Date: Nov 2005 Casino cash: $10004900	sucks, get rid of him...bring in someone who can catch a ball __________________ "It's kinda sad because we can't play basketball no more," Rush said. "Just school the rest of the year. It's bad for me because I don't like school."
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