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Old 12-21-2014, 06:49 PM  
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Your realistic offseason plan

Alex Smith will be here next year. So will Reid and Dorsey. Let's keep this in the realm of the realistic.

So what would you do this offseason to fix this mess, given that we will be drafting around #18-#20?
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Old 12-21-2014, 07:45 PM   #46
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Old 12-21-2014, 07:46 PM   #47
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Old 12-21-2014, 08:00 PM   #49
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From top to bottom, here's how I would rank the players in terms of long-term and short-term value. I'm taking into account age, position, and performance. (Rank is on the far right.)

The Stars

Charles, Jamaal RB 27 7 Texas 1
Houston, Justin LB 25 3 Georgia 2
Poe, Dontari DT 24 2 Memphis 3
Smith, Sean CB 27 5 Utah 4
Thomas, De'Anthony RB/ST 21 0 Oregon 5

The "Safe spot on the roster" guys

Kelce, Travis TE 25 R Cincinnati 6
Bailey, Allen DE 25 4 Miami (Fla.) 7
Hudson, Rodney C 25 3 Florida State 8
Gaines, Phillip CB 23 0 Rice 9
Ford, Dee LB 23 0 Auburn 10
Fisher, Eric OT 23 1 Central Michigan 11
Bowe, Dwayne WR 30 8 LSU 12
Colquitt, Dustin P 32 10 Tennessee 13
Wilson, Albert WR 22 0 Georgia State 14
Smith, Alex QB 30 8 Utah 15
Hali, Tamba LB 31 8 Penn State 16
Sherman, Anthony RB 26 3 Connecticut 17
Fulton, Zach OG 23 0 Tennessee 18
Davis, Knile RB 23 2 Arkansas 19
Howard, Jaye DT 26 2 Florida 20

The "Replace them if you can be you probably have bigger priorities" guys

DeVito, Mike DE 30 7 Maine 21
Abdullah, Husain DB 29 6 Washington State 22
Johnson, Derrick LB 32 9 Texas 23
Allen, Jeff OL 24 2 Illinois 24
Martin, Josh LB/DE 23 R Columbia 25
Gafford, Thomas LS 31 6 Houston 26
Gray, Cyrus RB 25 2 Texas A&M 27
Catapano, Mike DE 24 R Princeton 28
Hemingway, Junior WR 25 1 Michigan 29
Fasano, Anthony TE 30 9 Notre Dame 30
Parker, Ron DB 27 3 Newberry 31
Duvernay-Tardif, Laurent OT 23 0 McGill (Canada) 32
Fleming, Jamell DB 25 3 Oklahoma 33
Cooper, Marcus CB 24 2 Rutgers 34
Harris, Demetrius TE R UW-Milwaukee 35

The "At risk" guys

Johnson, James-Michael LB 25 2 Nevada 36
Harris, Ryan T 29 6 Notre Dame 37
McKnight, Joe RB 26 3 USC 38
Santos, Cairo K 23 0 Tulane 39
Vickerson, Kevin DT 31 9 Michigan State 40
Walker, Vance DT 27 6 Georgia Tech 41
Mays, Joe ILB 29 7 North Dakota State 42
Avant, Jason WR 31 9 Michigan 43
Mauga, Josh LB 27 4 Nevada 44
Hammond, Frankie WR 24 R Florida 45
Kush, Eric OL 25 R California (Pa.) 46
Stephenson, Donald OL 26 2 Oklahoma 47


The "Fighting for a job" guys

Murray, Aaron QB 24 0 Georgia 48
Daniel, Chase QB 28 6 Missouri 49
Bray, Tyler QB 22 0 Tennessee 50
Commings, Sanders DB 24 R Georgia 51
Berry, Eric S 25 5 Tennessee 52
Coleman, Kurt FS 26 5 Ohio State 53
Sorensen, Daniel DB 24 0 Brigham Young 54
McCray, Kelcie SAF 26 3 Arkansas State 55
Linkenbach, Jeffrey G 27 5 Cincinnati 56
West, Charcandrick RB 23 0 Abilene Christian 57
McGlynn, Mike G 29 7 Pittsburgh 58
Jenkins, A.J. WR 25 2 Illinois 59
Owens, Chris CB 28 6 San Jose State 60
Avery, Donnie WR 30 7 Houston 61
Zombo, Frank LB 27 4 Central Michigan 62
Gordon, Richard TE 27 3 Miami (Fla.) 63
Williams, Nick DT 24 2 Samford 64
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Old 12-21-2014, 08:01 PM   #50
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Here's a new problem not many are thinking about:

Hali is clearly done. We may not be able to re-sign Houston.

We could enter next season with Dee Ford and a bag of assholes at OLB.
There is this thing called the franchise tag. It would take a criminally insane act not to have Houston on the roster next year.
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Old 12-21-2014, 08:04 PM   #51
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Based on my rankings below, I can now group them by position and see where the need is. Our goal will be to increase the starting positions and also to replace guys who are ranked probably 40 or lower.

Let's look at the backfield first.

Running backs

25 Charles, Jamaal RB 27 7 Texas 1
13 Thomas, De'Anthony RB/ST 21 0 Oregon 5
42 Sherman, Anthony RB 26 3 Connecticut 17
34 Davis, Knile RB 23 2 Arkansas 19
32 Gray, Cyrus RB 25 2 Texas A&M 27
22 McKnight, Joe RB 26 3 USC 38
35 West, Charcandrick RB 23 0 Abilene Christian 57

Clearly stacked here, and a lot of these guys contribute on special teams. No action needed.

Quarterback

11 Smith, Alex QB 30 8 Utah 15
7 Murray, Aaron QB 24 0 Georgia 48
10 Daniel, Chase QB 28 6 Missouri 49
9 Bray, Tyler QB 22 0 Tennessee 50

You may not like Smith ranked as high as 15, but it's going to be hard to find a better short-term option unless one of the backups blossom. Our backups are all replaceable, so let the three of them duke it out for a backup spot.

I'll repeat that I recognize that we need a franchise quarterback, but I doubt that it'll happen this year, so I'm presuming no action.
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I'll repeat that I recognize that we need a franchise quarterback, but I doubt that it'll happen this year, so I'm presuming no action.
If there is a Joe Montana, Russell Wilson hanging around in in rounds 2 or 3, I wouldn't mind drafting him.

Or a Tom Brady in the 6th.
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Now let's look at the receivers.

Wide receivers

82 Bowe, Dwayne WR 30 8 LSU 12
12 Wilson, Albert WR 22 0 Georgia State 14
88 Hemingway, Junior WR 25 1 Michigan 29
81 Avant, Jason WR 31 9 Michigan 43
85 Hammond, Frankie WR 24 R Florida 45
15 Jenkins, A.J. WR 25 2 Illinois 59
17 Avery, Donnie WR 30 7 Houston 61

This is a weird group to rank. Maybe I'm being too hard on Avery and Jenkins, but I'd rather have the other guys on the roster over them next year just from a youth and potential perspective.

If you look at the rankings here, we have to keep Bowe. There's no choice. I rank Albert Wilson high on potential and give Hemingway a bump to the middle ranks based on special teams. But without Bowe we have one small second-year player and that's it. So WR is a very high priority in the offseason even if Alex doesn't throw to them.

Tight End

87 Kelce, Travis TE 25 R Cincinnati 6
80 Fasano, Anthony TE 30 9 Notre Dame 30
84 Harris, Demetrius TE R UW-Milwaukee 35
89 Gordon, Richard TE 27 3 Miami (Fla.) 63

Kelce's the rising young star and Fasano is a middle of the pack veteran. Harris gets points for being young and I have no idea who Gordon is. But it seems like we've got youth and depth here, so no action needed.
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If there is a Joe Montana, Russell Wilson hanging around in in rounds 2 or 3, I wouldn't mind drafting him.

Or a Tom Brady in the 6th.
I'd be okay with that. It would be a good value pick.
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Ask Carolina if they would trade Kelvin Benjamin for Dee Ford............nevermind.

We need a receiver and some depth on the offensive line. We don't have a lot of money, if I'm not mistaken, so we'll have to address these needs in the draft.

We're not getting another QB after giving Smith that big contract. Sad fact, but it's a fact. Reid is also not going anywhere.
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Looking at that list I just realized how truly disappointing the Vance Walker signing has been.
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Now let's look at the offensive line.

Offensive tackle

72 Fisher, Eric OT 23 1 Central Michigan 11
68 Harris, Ryan T 29 6 Notre Dame 37
79 Stephenson, Donald OL 26 2 Oklahoma 47

I rank Fisher high based on potential, and Harris was a middle of the pack roster guy. I liked him more than expected, and liked Stephenson less than expected. We need an upgrade at RT, but it's not the highest priority.

73 Fulton, Zach OG 23 0 Tennessee 18
71 Allen, Jeff OL 24 2 Illinois 24
76 Duvernay-Tardif, Laurent OT 23 0 McGill (Canada) 32
74 Linkenbach, Jeffrey G 27 5 Cincinnati 56
75 McGlynn, Mike G 29 7 Pittsburgh 58

I know we're unhappy with left guard, but I think Allen will come back next year or the Tardis will step up. I don't think we're drafting one, or at least not high.

61 Hudson, Rodney C 25 3 Florida State 8
64 Kush, Eric OL 25 R California (Pa.) 46

Fine here. No need to replace Kush if he never plays anyway.
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I would address the Oline and WR. CB and S are second for draft position or FA. I personally would walk away from Alex Smith, though not realistic, that man doesn't deserve 26 million or whatever hed be guaranteed if he's still on the roster.
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