Chiefs Dolphins working on a trade for offensive tackle Branden Albert - Page 37

ShowtimeSBMVP · 04:51 PM

Branden Albert trade won’t happen unless he lowers his price
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 21, 2013, 6:46 PM EDT
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The much-discussed potential trade of Branden Albert from the Chiefs to the Dolphins doesn’t appear likely at the price Albert is currently seeking.

Although the Chiefs and Dolphins can probably agree on compensation — the Dolphins sending a second-round pick to Kansas City — the hangup is that Albert wants the kind of money that the Dolphins aren’t willing to spend. Specifically, according to Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports, Albert wants between $8 million and $9 million a year on a long-term deal.

In other words, Albert is looking for the same kind of contract that left tackle Jake Long got from the Rams — the very contract the Dolphins wouldn’t give Long, which is why he left Miami for St. Louis.

If the Dolphins weren’t willing to pay Long that kind of money, it’s hard to see why they’d be willing to give up a second-round draft pick for the privilege of paying Albert that kind of money. So the Dolphins may need to look elsewhere for a left tackle. And Albert may have to settle for playing this season for the Chiefs, making $9.8 million, and hitting free agency next year.

-King- · 04-17-2013, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Unless you're an NFL player or agent that's contractually guaranteed a bonus for making said Pro Bowl.

Which of course, includes everyone that actually plays in the NFL.

Ok? What does that have to do with the context of the argument?

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-17-2013, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Ok? What does that have to do with the context of the argument?

Um, the fact that it DOES mean something.

Duh.

milkman · 04-17-2013, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Um, the fact that it DOES mean something.

Duh.

From a fan's perspective, the Pro Bowl is nothing more than a popularity contest.

The fact that a player makes a Pro Bowl doesn't mean jack in the big picture of things.

-King- · 04-17-2013, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Um, the fact that it DOES mean something.

Duh.

I'm trying to figure our what your point is here.

He was trying to equate going to the PB with being elite. I said that the PB doesn't have shit to do with being elite.

**007** · 04-17-2013, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

From a fan's perspective, the Pro Bowl is nothing more than a popularity contest.

The fact that a player makes a Pro Bowl doesn't mean jack in the big picture of things.

The fact that Matt ****ing Cassel can call himself a Pro Bowl Quarterback says everything you need to know about what a joke the Pro Bowl is.

DTLB58 · 04-17-2013, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

From a fan's perspective, the Pro Bowl is nothing more than a popularity contest.

The fact that a player makes a Pro Bowl doesn't mean jack in the big picture of things.

ChiefsCountry · 04-17-2013, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

When you have the first overall pick in the draft, you should be able to walk away from that pick feeling that you have selected a player that should be a huge upgrade to the position he plays.

Trading Branden Albert and replacing him with the #1 overall pick does not accomplish this.

That would be the Chiefs for you.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-17-2013, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

From a fan's perspective, the Pro Bowl is nothing more than a popularity contest.

The fact that a player makes a Pro Bowl doesn't mean jack in the big picture of things.

But for players and agents, it means a shit ton. It means prestige, bigger contracts and escalators.

Don't for one second fool yourself into believing that it's meaningless, or that agents don't hire minimum wage workers to vote for their players.

-King- · 04-17-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

But for players and agents, it means a shit ton. It means prestige, bigger contracts and escalators.

Don't for one second fool yourself into believing that it's meaningless, or that agents don't hire minimum wage workers to vote for their players.

This has NOTHING to do with what we're talking about.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-17-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

The fact that Matt ****ing Cassel can call himself a Pro Bowl Quarterback says everything you need to know about what a joke the Pro Bowl is.

IIRC, he wasn't elected to the Pro Bowl, he was like a 4th alternate.

That's very different.

**RealSNR** · 04-17-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

When you have the first overall pick in the draft, you should be able to walk away from that pick feeling that you have selected a player that should be a huge upgrade to the position he plays.

Trading Branden Albert and replacing him with the #1 overall pick does not accomplish this.

But.. but... DRAFT VALUE, man! They have to take BPA! It's written! You have to take the guard or the pudgy whiteboy LT if he's the BPA!

ShowtimeSBMVP · 04-17-2013, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

But.. but... DRAFT VALUE, man! They have to take BPA! It's written! You have to take the guard or the pudgy whiteboy LT if he's the BPA!

Why bring race into this? My god the Butt-hurt from Geno is strong.

KevB · 04-17-2013, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

When you have the first overall pick in the draft, you should be able to walk away from that pick feeling that you have selected a player that should be a huge upgrade to the position he plays.

Trading Branden Albert and replacing him with the #1 overall pick does not accomplish this.

Playing Devil's Advocate (I generally agree with your statement and I've said the same thing before) :

If you trade Albert and his $10M, does that open up some cash to go sign one of the remaining RT's on the market (Tyson Clabo)? And let's say you draft Kevin Minter with the acquired 2nd round pick to go along with Joeckel/Fisher. You've now traded a good LT and in "return", you've added starters at three positions. A lot of "ifs" there, but just throwing out possible flip side to the quoted statement.

**RealSNR** · 04-17-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Why bring race into this? My god the Butt-hurt from Geno is strong.

I'm pretty sure you're the guy who gets upset every time I make fun of white people.

Seriously. Get a life. And thicker skin.

-King- · 04-17-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB

Playing Devil's Advocate (I generally agree with your statement and I've said the same thing before) :

If you trade Albert and his $10M, does that open up some cash to go sign one of the remaining RT's on the market (Tyson Clabo)? And let's say you draft Kevin Minter with the acquired 2nd round pick to go along with Joeckel/Fisher. You've now traded a good LT and in "return", you've added starters at three positions. A lot of "ifs" there, but just throwing out possible flip side to the quoted statement.

Signing him to a long term deal does the same.

04-17-2013, 05:39 PM
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3676009	Branden Albert trade won’t happen unless he lowers his price Branden Albert trade won’t happen unless he lowers his price Posted by Michael David Smith on April 21, 2013, 6:46 PM EDT Branden Albert AP The much-discussed potential trade of Branden Albert from the Chiefs to the Dolphins doesn’t appear likely at the price Albert is currently seeking. Although the Chiefs and Dolphins can probably agree on compensation — the Dolphins sending a second-round pick to Kansas City — the hangup is that Albert wants the kind of money that the Dolphins aren’t willing to spend. Specifically, according to Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports, Albert wants between $8 million and $9 million a year on a long-term deal. In other words, Albert is looking for the same kind of contract that left tackle Jake Long got from the Rams — the very contract the Dolphins wouldn’t give Long, which is why he left Miami for St. Louis. If the Dolphins weren’t willing to pay Long that kind of money, it’s hard to see why they’d be willing to give up a second-round draft pick for the privilege of paying Albert that kind of money. So the Dolphins may need to look elsewhere for a left tackle. And Albert may have to settle for playing this season for the Chiefs, making $9.8 million, and hitting free agency next year. Last edited by ShowtimeSBMVP; 04-21-2013 at 04:51 PM..
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