Confederate States of America…

Megbert · 01-21-2006, 01:16 PM

This movie takes a satirical look at what may have happened if the South won.

C.S.A. The Movie

SLAG · 01-21-2006, 01:25 PM

Yeah it was done by a director here in KS.

I heard it was intereting

**Dunit35** · 01-21-2006, 01:29 PM

Looks cool.

Chiefs Pantalones · 01-21-2006, 01:30 PM

I'm sure a bunch of rednecks will be there to take it over.

reporter-- Why are you here?

redneck-- This movie is what should've happened!!! Slavery, yeah!!!

**Rausch** · 01-21-2006, 01:36 PM

I love the "What if" idea but I wish is was more of a serious approach.

Spicy McHaggis · 01-21-2006, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SLAG02

Yeah it was done by a director here in KS.

I heard it was intereting

Yeah Wilmott is his name. He was my professor last year, pretty cool guy.

SLAG · 01-21-2006, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis

Yeah Wilmott is his name. He was my professor last year, pretty cool guy.

My Cousin is the KS film Comish. and he got a couple of copys of this movies and also went with him to a couple of festivals.

I havent seen it my cousin said it was so-so

**Reaper16** · 01-21-2006, 02:32 PM

Its definitely worth a watch. Great thing about it is, the CSA depicted in the movie isn't that different from the USA.

**RealSNR** · 01-21-2006, 03:45 PM

That's bullshit. If the South won the war there still would have been a US. When we won the American Revolution, we didn't take over Britain, now did we?

I agree with Rausch. A serious view of this movie would've been much cooler.

**Dunit35** · 01-21-2006, 03:47 PM

We'd be the same USA now if the Confederates won the war.

Calcountry · 01-21-2006, 03:48 PM

What if I would have joined the Navy when I dropped out of Grad School? I wouldn't have my two kids.

What if the bullet was an inch closer to my dads Heart in North Korea? I wouldn't exist, neither my kids.

You can play all that mind shit all you want, it don't mean jack. It is what it is.

This is, IMHO, just another way to foment racial attitudes and pave the way to reparations.

What if the Indians would have kicked the "white man" back to England? What if Christopher Columbus ship would have sunk before he could have told Spain about the "new world"? They would have rightfully assumed he sailed off the edge of the earth.

**Dunit35** · 01-21-2006, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunit35

Looks cool.

I take back this statement. The trailer was really really stupid. None of this stuff would have ever happend.

milkman · 01-21-2006, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bunnytrdr

What if I would have joined the Navy when I dropped out of Grad School? I wouldn't have my two kids.

What if the bullet was an inch closer to my dads Heart in North Korea? I wouldn't exist, neither my kids.

You can play all that mind shit all you want, it don't mean jack. It is what it is.

This is, IMHO, just another way to foment racial attitudes and pave the way to reparations.

What if the Indians would have kicked the "white man" back to England? What if Christopher Columbus ship would have sunk before he could have told Spain about the "new world"? They would have rightfully assumed he sailed off the edge of the earth.

"Rightfully" assumed?

Thig Lyfe · 01-21-2006, 04:18 PM

Well, first off if the South had won we'd all be speaking French or in British accents. The US was the only strong nation in the western hemisphere at the time, and if split France and Britain would find it much easier to sail to North America and expand their empires with no strong government in their way.

But even if they were to survive that, there are many more flaws.

1. In the trailer kids are pledging allegiance to the Confederate States of America. This would never happen because the confederates were pro-state's rights and anti-federal government. They'd be saying, "I pledge allegiance to Georgia" or "I pledge allegiance to Vermont."

2. Slavery would not coexist with the technology portrayed in the movie. One of two things would have to happen. One, the states would have industrialized and slavery would have died out naturally because cotton and agricultrue in general would not be nearly as important. Or, the South would have stayed with their completely one-dimensional economy based on cotton and never modernize, or if they did it would not be at all to the extent the movie shows. Neither scenario explains why slavery would exist in the North anyway since there had never been much of a reason for it there in the first place, what with its lack of a real cash crop.

3. Slavery was, for the most part, not based on racial superiority. It was based on economic necessity to the south. They needed it to maintain the planting aristocracy which kept its economy upright. There's no reason to think that the south would sympathize with Hitler. Of course racism was a factor in slavery, but slavery was not maintained just for racism's sake.

4. Go back to the classroom scene. That would likely not happen in the first place unless it was a private classroom with the sons and daughters of plantation owners. These planters controlled society in the south, and since they could afford to have their childred attend privately or overseas they had no reason to fund public education. The literacy rate of this nation would be ridiculously low. This is of course assuming the same economic structure would be preserve.

A more serious look would be a much more enjoyable and educational movie.

trndobrd · 01-21-2006, 04:24 PM

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Thig Lyfe Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Thigpen's America Casino cash: $10004900	Well, first off if the South had won we'd all be speaking French or in British accents. The US was the only strong nation in the western hemisphere at the time, and if split France and Britain would find it much easier to sail to North America and expand their empires with no strong government in their way. But even if they were to survive that, there are many more flaws. 1. In the trailer kids are pledging allegiance to the Confederate States of America. This would never happen because the confederates were pro-state's rights and anti-federal government. They'd be saying, "I pledge allegiance to Georgia" or "I pledge allegiance to Vermont." 2. Slavery would not coexist with the technology portrayed in the movie. One of two things would have to happen. One, the states would have industrialized and slavery would have died out naturally because cotton and agricultrue in general would not be nearly as important. Or, the South would have stayed with their completely one-dimensional economy based on cotton and never modernize, or if they did it would not be at all to the extent the movie shows. Neither scenario explains why slavery would exist in the North anyway since there had never been much of a reason for it there in the first place, what with its lack of a real cash crop. 3. Slavery was, for the most part, not based on racial superiority. It was based on economic necessity to the south. They needed it to maintain the planting aristocracy which kept its economy upright. There's no reason to think that the south would sympathize with Hitler. Of course racism was a factor in slavery, but slavery was not maintained just for racism's sake. 4. Go back to the classroom scene. That would likely not happen in the first place unless it was a private classroom with the sons and daughters of plantation owners. These planters controlled society in the south, and since they could afford to have their childred attend privately or overseas they had no reason to fund public education. The literacy rate of this nation would be ridiculously low. This is of course assuming the same economic structure would be preserve. A more serious look would be a much more enjoyable and educational movie.
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