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Old 10-09-2014, 09:09 PM   #1
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Thomas has 15 picks

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15 in 4 years

8 in 3 years

One of them plays centerfield and the other spends a lot of time in the box. I'm not arguing who's better in coverage.. It's obviously Thomas. But berry brings a lot more to the table
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Old 10-09-2014, 09:13 PM   #2
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15 in 4 years

8 in 3 years

One of them plays centerfield and the other spends a lot of time in the box. I'm not arguing who's better in coverage.. It's obviously Thomas. But berry brings a lot more to the table
They were drafted the same year...trying to throw out years Berry has lost/is losing to injury is just silly.

I'd pay Thomas 10 a year without blinking while I'd be reluctant to offer Berry 8.

This is a passing league and in this division, playmakers in the secondary are worth far more than box safeties.

Just trying to be objective and leave the emotions out of it.
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Old 10-09-2014, 09:14 PM   #3
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They were drafted the same year...trying to throw out years Berry has lost/is losing to injury is just silly.

I'd pay Thomas 10 a year without blinking while I'd be reluctant to offer Berry 8.
It's silly to not count the year Stevie Johnson decided to **** Berry's knee up against him? Ok...
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It's silly to not count the year Stevie Johnson decided to **** Berry's knee up against him? Ok...
If we are talking about giving a big contract to a player...missing as many games to injury as Berry has should be a major factor.

Would you give Berry 10/yr?

I wouldn't unless he is taking the ball away...sorry, but he doesn't do that enough.
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Old 10-09-2014, 09:20 PM   #5
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If we are talking about giving a big contract to a player...missing as many games to injury as Berry has should be a major factor.

Would you give Berry 10/yr?

I wouldn't unless he is taking the ball away...sorry, but he doesn't do that.
You act like Thomas averages 7 picks a year. It's literally one more per year than Berry
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You act like Thomas averages 7 picks a year. It's literally one more per year than Berry
Thomas has 15 and Berry has 8. Try to do math on earth...ok?
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Old 10-09-2014, 09:24 PM   #7
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Thomas has 15 and Berry has 8. Try to do math on earth...ok?
I am not counting a full season Berry missed because of a cheap shot against him. You are bending these stats so they help your argument
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If we are talking about giving a big contract to a player...missing as many games to injury as Berry has should be a major factor.
I don't think any rational person would count the Stevie Johnson year against him, especially after he came back and was an All-Pro.

I'd give him 9/yr and not think twice about it. There's a ****ing reason he's 2nd behind Earl Thomas on damn near every list of Safeties.
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I don't think any rational person would count the Stevie Johnson year against him, especially after he came back and was an All-Pro.

I'd give him 9/yr and not think twice about it. There's a ****ing reason he's 2nd behind Earl Thomas on damn near every list of Safeties.
I wouldn't be mad if they gave him 9/yr...I just don't think he's worth that much.

He is a box safety that is bordering on injury prone.
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15 in 4 years

8 in 3 years

One of them plays centerfield and the other spends a lot of time in the box. I'm not arguing who's better in coverage.. It's obviously Thomas. But berry brings a lot more to the table
Thomas can do a lot of the same things that Berry does. But can Berry play CF as effectively as Thomas can?
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Thomas can do a lot of the same things that Berry does. But can Berry play CF as effectively as Thomas can?
Seriously? You think Thomas could jump in the box and we wouldn't miss a beat? And no, Berry can't touch Thomas in the centerfield. No one in the league can. But that doesn't mean Berry wouldn't be worth the contract. He is the best SS in the league.
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Seriously? You think Thomas could jump in the box and we wouldn't miss a beat? And no, Berry can't touch Thomas in the centerfield. No one in the league can. But that doesn't mean Berry wouldn't be worth the contract. He is the best SS in the league.
Yes. Thomas has phenomenal instincts, is a great tackler, and his athleticism is more than on par with Berry's.
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