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Keep f***ing doubting Alex Smith
The title of the thread says it all....
**** you doubters. He plays with heart, and he continues to get the job done. You people who bash Alex, I don't even consider true fans. He plays his heart out every week, and you continue to bash him... Keep bashing him, I'll keep backing him. |
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It is always the guys chucking the ball down the field that win games. 2012 Leaders: Brees Flacco Luck Manning Freeman Stafford Wilson Newton Brady Ryan E. Manning That is 7 of the top 11 with winning records, and Brees is at the top again this year and has a winning record. When the dust settles you will see the majority of the leaders in this statistic winning the most games again. Wait and see.
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I never said he was a stud but I think he will continue to improve. The Bengals are a good team.
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Gregg Doyel disagrees Joe Flacco got paid for this? Pay attention, Cincinnati Bengals As if Andy Dalton didn't cost himself enough money on Sunday, Joe Flacco should have taken even more cash out of Dalton's future pockets by demonstrating -- in the same game, on the same field -- just how risky it is for a team to put all of its eggs into one quarterback's basket. You can't run an NFL franchise on wishes and hopeful thinking, is what the Ravens are learning right about now -- and what the Bengals, if they're as smart as they seem to have become in recent years, had better be learning as well. The Falcons are seeing the same thing, come to think of it, with Matt Ryan. A 2-7 start is ugly. A 2-7 start requires lots of work. Does Ryan's five-year, $103.75 million contract give the Falcons the flexibility to do that work? We'll see. You can't win in the NFL with dreams and positive thinking. You need a quarterback playing at a super-high level -- and in lieu of that, you'd better have the financial flexibility to fix that position or seriously upgrade the talent around the quarterback. The Ravens have neither. Their quarterback, a serviceable starter for five years before embarking on a magical postseason run last season, is in the first year of a six-year, $120.6 million contract, $52 million of which is guaranteed. Not that the Ravens would or even should release Flacco -- I'm not saying that, so don't read something I'm not writing -- but his contract is structured such that the team would have almost $30 million of dead money in 2015 if they release him when a $7 million option bonus comes due. My point? My point is, Flacco better stop playing like he did for most of his first five seasons, and start playing like he did during the 2012 postseason, or the Ravens are screwed. The thing is, the first five seasons of Joe Flacco's NFL career provided a pretty good baseline for who he is, and who he is not. Who is he not? He's not the Joe Montana-looking guy who got hot at the absolute perfect time last season, embarking on a postseason in which he threw for 1,140 yards, 11 touchdowns, no interceptions and a nifty 117.2 passer rating. Problem is, the Ravens are paying for the Montana guy, not this Flacco dude who was utterly pedestrian yet again on Sunday. The Ravens won Sunday, but even with the overtime win against the Bengals they're 4-5 on the season, not what the franchise had in mind when it made Flacco the highest-paid player in NFL history. And the Ravens won only because Andy Dalton was even worse than Flacco. And Flacco wasn't so good: 20 for 36, 140 yards (yikes), two touchdowns and two interceptions. That right there is an ugly day, but those are sexy, irresistible numbers compared to the ones Dalton coughed up: 24 for 51, 274 yards, two TD's and three INT's -- numbers heavily bolstered by a gift 51-yard TD on a twice-tipped Hail Mary to end regulation. Dalton puts up numbers like that a lot, because he's good but not awesome. You know who he's a lot like? At this stage in his career, he's a lot like Joe Flacco. Flacco through three years: 10,206 passing yards, 62 percent accuracy, 60 touchdowns vs. 34 interceptions, 87.9 passer rating. Dalton through 2 1/2 years: 9,928 yards, 61.3 percent, 65 TDs, 42 INTs, 85.8 rating. Take it a step farther and note that Flacco's next two years, the 2011-12 seasons, saw his numbers go down (58.6 percent, 42 TDs, 22 INTs, 84.3 rating). But he got hot at the right time, led the Ravens to a Super Bowl title, and then got paid. More power to him, but there's a lesson here. And it's a lesson for the Bengals, whose own quarterback has never shown Flacco's penchant for being at his best in the biggest moments but who nonetheless has proved capable of uncorking a misleading hot stretch. Look back at his career numbers for a minute and then note that in Weeks 6-8, Dalton averaged 345 passing yards per game, completed 66 percent of his passes and had an 11-to-1 ratio of touchdowns to interceptions. A lot like what Flacco did in the 2012 postseason, minus -- you know -- the postseason part. Point being, NFL quarterbacks are going to get hot. They're in the NFL for a reason, and they're surrounded by NFL talent, and every now and then they're going to have three or four consecutive games where they look more like Montana than Flacco or Dalton. But for an all-time great, those hot streaks are more Flucco than Flacco. The Ravens are finding that out right now. The Bengals, you'd like to think, are seeing the same thing from Dalton. Look back at his Week 6-8 numbers for a minute, and then note that in the two games since then Dalton has completed a very Andy Dalton-like 53.8 percent of his passes for two TDs, six INTs and a passer rating of roughly 63.0. Additionally, Dalton has shown none of Flacco's big-game moxie. In arguably the six biggest-stage games of his career -- four regular-season games on prime-time national television, plus his only two playoff games -- Dalton has completed 55.5 percent of his passes for three touchdowns and eight interceptions. The Bengals are 2-4 in those games. Dalton is in the third year of his four-year rookie deal. The time is approaching to pay him off or plan for the future without him. Choose wisely, Bengals. Not sure the Ravens did. ------------------------- I've been on the fence about Flacco being a "Franchise QB", I don't think Ryan is a "Franchise QB" (and has looked like shit without his elite receivers) and Dalton isn't proving he's a $20 million a year guy. There are two ways to win in the NFL: A TRUE Franchise QB like Brady, Manning, Brees and Rodgers, where without them, the team would FAIL, OR, build a strong offense around a "Game Manager". Considering the lack of QB's that can literally put a team on their back and win, I think it's likely we'll less and less of the $20 million per year guys because it hamstrings the GM and front office. |
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The Ravens essentially paid the richest contract ever to Alex Smith, after he got hot in the postseason one year.
Maybe Flacco is a cut above Smith, but it's not like there are miles of distance between the two. Flacco is a lot more average than people were taking him for there, for a while |
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When Alex Smith shows that he's capable of carrying a team through the playoffs to a super bowl win, then I'll start to think of him as closer to Flacco. For right now all we've seen is that he's good at not losing games on teams with great defenses.
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The Falcons didn't overpay for Ryan.
A guy is allowed to have one losing season every six years for crying out loud.
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OTOH, Brees, Manning, Rodgers and Brady are always great, despite the lack of elite talent around them. |
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