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Old 04-18-2014, 08:25 AM   #1
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What else do we have to judge him on?

Up to this point, he hasn't even been a replacement level player. Not that that can't change, but in his first year, he was an injury prone mess.
Our entire draft class was an injury prone mess, which sucks because only Knile Davis was injury prone in college.
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Old 04-21-2014, 01:19 PM   #2
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At this point, I really only have three names I want at WR in the first round...

Watkins, Evans, and Matthews. Maaaaaybe Beckham, but I'm starting to think size is more of an issue than I want it to be.
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Old 04-21-2014, 09:57 PM   #3
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At this point, I really only have three names I want at WR in the first round...

Watkins, Evans, and Matthews. Maaaaaybe Beckham, but I'm starting to think size is more of an issue than I want it to be.
Beckham's size, or your perceived lack of size with him, isn't an issue. He's got crazy long arms, hands the size of dinner plates and he can jump tall buildings in a single bound.

He's 5'11", 198 lbs., and looks to have plenty of room on his frame.

And he's absolutely sick in terms of route running, high pointing the ball and having pogo sticks for legs to go along with breakaway speed.

That being said, he'll most likely be long gone by the time the Chiefs pick.

However, if you don't think he's the shit after checking out his instagram site, then there may be no hope for you...

http://instagram.com/iam_obj3

I want this dude on the Chiefs something fierce.
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Old 04-22-2014, 06:55 PM   #4
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I really like Jared Abbrederis, but **** idk if I would touch this kid until the 4th round.

3 or 4 concussions and a slender frame? That doesn't sound good for a slow white boy, along with only 4 reps on the bench.
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Old 04-22-2014, 07:00 PM   #5
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I really like Jared Abbrederis, but **** idk if I would touch this kid until the 4th round.

3 or 4 concussions and a slender frame? That doesn't sound good for a slow white boy, along with only 4 reps on the bench.
He's anything but slow with one of the fastest 3-cones in the draft, but the concussions are a concern. Giving what happened with Ryan Swope, a very similar player, I think it is tough to draft Abbrederis very early.
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Old 04-25-2014, 10:47 AM   #6
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He's anything but slow with one of the fastest 3-cones in the draft, but the concussions are a concern. Giving what happened with Ryan Swope, a very similar player, I think it is tough to draft Abbrederis very early.
He's got a very low vertical as well.

Guys like Abbrederis and BYU's Cody Hoffman (ultra-productive college receivers who lack the explosiveness/burst to be successful as downfield threats at the next level) are going to be very system dependent at the next level.

By looking and bringing in guys like Avery, Jenkins and Sanders, it doesn't appear that a guy like Abbrederis is on the radar of the Chiefs. They look like they want a guy who has burst and is capable of separation. They've already got "horizontal" type receivers in Bowe and Hemingway, and the tight end position plays to this as well.

I would guess that guys like Beckham, Cooks, Ellington, Herron, Huff, and the like are what they may be looking for.
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Old 04-25-2014, 12:13 AM   #7
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At this point, I really only have three names I want at WR in the first round...

Watkins, Evans, and Matthews. Maaaaaybe Beckham, but I'm starting to think size is more of an issue than I want it to be.
This. I'm absolutely wary about drafting anyone under 6'1 or 6'2 with a draft this deep in receivers. The CURRENT roster already has a 5'11 receiver who runs a 4.27 and a 6'0 receiver who runs a 4.3... both are completely useless overall in the NFL. Spot "contributors" at best. They need to draft a day 1 starter..
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Old 04-22-2014, 11:15 PM   #8
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@MoveTheSticks: This draft is ridiculously loaded at WR. I'm watching Coastal Carolina WR Matt Hazel... Size/speed/fluid route runner/strong hands.

Here's hoping we get two (2) WR's outta this draft.
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If Latimer surprisingly goes in the 1st, who do you think will take him? My best guess is the 49ers at 30. They have tons of picks and they did take AJ Jenkins a few years ago, whom many considered a late 2nd to 3rd round pick the year that he came out.
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If Latimer surprisingly goes in the 1st, who do you think will take him? My best guess is the 49ers at 30. They have tons of picks and they did take AJ Jenkins a few years ago, whom many considered a late 2nd to 3rd round pick the year that he came out.
I'm thinking Carolina, Denver, or San Francisco. I'd think it will be quite late in round 1 if it happens.
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I'll tell you what guys. This Jarvis Landry kid looks like Dwayne Bowe with better hands. IMO he is this years Keenan Allen.

Slow 40 or not I'd still take him. He's got nice game speed. He may not be a burner, but damn is he a great possession guy. He does just about everything well.

Really overshadowed by Odell Beckham Jr.
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I'll tell you what guys. This Jarvis Landry kid looks like Dwayne Bowe with better hands. IMO he is this years Keenan Allen.

Slow 40 or not I'd still take him. He's got nice game speed. He may not be a burner, but damn is he a great possession guy. He does just about everything well.

Really overshadowed by Odell Beckham Jr.
I like Landry too. Just wish he would have tested better. Looks more like a 4.5 guy on tape. If he's there in the 3rd I would take him. He's the best bet to end up being the next Anquan Boldin.
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I'll tell you what guys. This Jarvis Landry kid looks like Dwayne Bowe with better hands. IMO he is this years Keenan Allen.

Slow 40 or not I'd still take him. He's got nice game speed. He may not be a burner, but damn is he a great possession guy. He does just about everything well.

Really overshadowed by Odell Beckham Jr.
We have that guy on the roster.

His name is Junior Hemingway. Except Junior is bigger and faster.
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We have that guy on the roster.

His name is Junior Hemingway. Except Junior is bigger and faster.
I'm no fan of Landry, but, come on, get real.
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Here's the main reason why I would take Matthews, Allen Robinson, and a few other fringe 1st round WRs over Lee.



He showed the same problem at the combine. It's the real reason why he dropped 12% of his passes last year, not inconsistent QB play.

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