As the Pioli turns: three way trade w/ Donks & 'Skins?

[Direckshun]

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Do Skins want Cutler?

By John Keim
Examiner Staff Writer 3/18/09

The Redskins reportedly have entered talks about a three-way trade to acquire Jay Cutler and jettison Jason Campbell.

The Redskins have serious interest in Denver quarterback Jay Cutler, an NFL source said Tuesday, and have entered talks about a possible three-way deal to acquire him.

Two NFL sources confirmed the possibility of a three-way trade, with Kansas City being mentioned by one source as a possibility.

The Redskins, through a team spokesman, denied interest in Cutler. However, a league source was adamant that Washington has shown interest.

“They’re trying to do something,” one NFL source said of the Redskins.

“Whether or not it materializes is another matter, but [Redskins owner Dan Snyder] is on this hard. They don’t trust Jason Campbell.”

Cutler is involved in a dispute with Denver after the Broncos had discussions about trading him to New England for quarterback Matt Cassel.

First-year Broncos coach Josh McDaniels met with Culter this past weekend. Afterward, Cutler said he could not trust McDaniels and wanted to be traded.

Denver has said they don’t want to trade Cutler for draft picks, meaning the Redskins or the third team would have to surrender at least one top player. The Redskins could also end up with Denver tight end Tony Scheffler, who is represented by the same agent as Culter — Bus Cook.

Fueling the speculation is the close relationship between former Denver coach Mike Shanahan and Redskins executive vice president Vinny Cerrato. Shanahan, who traded several times with Cerrato while with Denver, could provide the endorsement needed for Cutler.

Also, after the season Cerrato gave Campbell a tepid endorsement as Washington’s quarterback of the future. Campbell is entering the last year of his contract and the Redskins have not had discussions about extending his deal.

Redskins coach Jim Zorn has praised Campbell publicly this offseason.
The strong-armed Cutler, 25, made the Pro Bowl this past season after throwing 25 touchdowns and 18 interceptions. In three seasons he’s tossed 54 touchdowns and 37 interceptions. In 16 games this past season, Campbell threw 13 touchdowns and six interceptions.

Cutler signed a six-year, $48-million contract in 2006. Campbell has a base salary of $2.5 million this season with a cap number of $7.5 million.

[tboss27]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I want to say Campbell is a free agent after this year. Say we traded Cassell to the Redskins for Campbell & 12/13, and they shipped Cassell to Denver for Cutler and 12. We could get Sanchez, let Campbell play this year and let him walk/develop Sanchez and with 12 and 13 get say Rey Maualuga and Vontae Davis. If Pioli could pull this off he would be a genius. And I will wake up now from this dream.

I'm not sure which part is less likely, you dreaming up us trading Cassel less than a month after acquiring him or thinking we would take a CB in the first round. You can only start two, its the position we are deepest at with young talent.

[gta0012]

I don't think were letting go of cassel

[tonyetony]

I want to say Campbell is a free agent after this year. Say we traded Cassell to the Redskins for Campbell & 12/13, and they shipped Cassell to Denver for Cutler and 12. We could get Sanchez, let Campbell play this year and let him walk/develop Sanchez and with 12 and 13 get say Rey Maualuga and Vontae Davis. If Pioli could pull this off he would be a genius. And I will wake up now from this dream.

I think vegas would safely give a billion to one odds on that happening. For everyone hoping that Cassel isn't our QB it's time to accept it and move on until we see how looks in red and gold.

[milkman]

The only way I see a deal here is that the Chiefs somehow end up with the Donkeys #12 overall, the Skins #13 overall, the Donkeys end up with the Chiefs #3 overall, and the Skins end up with Jay Cutler.

And Jason Campbell gets moved in all of that as well.

That would take some serious wrangling to get done.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by milkman

The only way I see a deal here is that the Chiefs somehow end up with the Donkeys #12 overall, the Skins #13 overall, the Donkeys end up with the Chiefs #3 overall, and the Skins end up with Jay Cutler.

And Jason Campbell gets moved in all of that as well.

That would take some serious wrangling to get done.

IMO that would be GREAT

[Mr. Krab]

Originally Posted by milkman

The only way I see a deal here is that the Chiefs somehow end up with the Donkeys #12 overall, the Skins #13 overall, the Donkeys end up with the Chiefs #3 overall, and the Skins end up with Jay Cutler.

And Jason Campbell gets moved in all of that as well.

That would take some serious wrangling to get done.

If we aren't going to take a QB at #3 then this deal would be really good for us.

[Coogs]

They were still talking Lions/Broncos/Chiefs on NFLLive (mentioned Cleveland instead of the Lions first though).

How about this...

Broncos's send Cutler to Lions for #20 and #33.
Chiefs now send Cassel to Broncos for #20 and #48

Lions have Cutler and still have thier #1
Broncos have Cassel, #12, and #33
Chiefs have #3, #20, #48

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by tboss27

I'm not sure which part is less likely, you dreaming up us trading Cassel less than a month after acquiring him or thinking we would take a CB in the first round. You can only start two, its the position we are deepest at with young talent.

Flowers is a #2 corner and Carr is more suited for nickel. There is no real pass rusher at that spot either.

[orange]

Originally Posted by Coogs

They were still talking Lions/Broncos/Chiefs on NFLLive (mentioned Cleveland instead of the Lions first though).

How about this...

Broncos's send Cutler to Lions for #20 and #33.
Chiefs now send Cassel to Broncos for #20 and #48

Lions have Cutler and still have thier #1
Broncos have Cassel, #12, and #33
Chiefs have #3, #20, #48

Basically you have the Broncos getting Cassel and #33 for Cutler. That won't wash. They had better offers than this and turned them down. I think you (and some in the media) are vastly overestimating the Broncos' desperation to dump Cutler. They OWN him for three more years - plus maybe two more with the franchise tag depending on the new CBA. If they trade out for some low-grade QB like Cassel or Campbell, they're not going to go anywhere in the post-season, anyway, so they have no reason to dump Cutler just because. Any trade would have to actually make sense.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by orange

Basically you have the Broncos getting Cassel and #33 for Cutler. That won't wash. They had better offers than this and turned them down. I think you (and some in the media) are vastly overestimating the Broncos' desperation to dump Cutler. They OWN him for three more years - plus maybe two more with the franchise tag depending on the new CBA. If they trade out for some low-grade QB like Cassel or Campbell, they're not going to go anywhere in the post-season, anyway, so they have no reason to dump Cutler just because. Any trade would have to actually make sense.

What has Denver been offered?

If you think your HC wouldn't trade Cutler for the #33 and Cassel, new McDonkeyson's dreamboat quarterback, you're nuts. Josh would gladly service section 117 at 1 Arrowhead for the right to shake Cassel's hand after our teams' first meeting.

[kcpasco]

Originally Posted by orange

Basically you have the Broncos getting Cassel and #33 for Cutler. That won't wash. They had better offers than this and turned them down. I think you (and some in the media) are vastly overestimating the Broncos' desperation to dump Cutler. They OWN him for three more years - plus maybe two more with the franchise tag depending on the new CBA. If they trade out for some low-grade QB like Cassel or Campbell, they're not going to go anywhere in the post-season, anyway, so they have no reason to dump Cutler just because. Any trade would have to actually make sense.

Cassel is a low grade qb?

You might want to tell your coach that

[orange]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

What has Denver been offered?

If you think your HC wouldn't trade Cutler for the #33 and Cassel, new McDonkeyson's dreamboat quarterback, you're nuts. Josh would gladly service section 117 at 1 Arrowhead for the right to shake Cassel's hand after our teams' first meeting.

They were going to get Cassel and a first rounder from Detroit or Tampa Bay however you slice the various rumors from two weeks ago.

Originally Posted by kcpasco

Cassel is a low grade qb?

You might want to tell your coach that

"My" coach turned down Cassel plus a first round pick for Cutler. There's no other way to read that than that he valued Cutler more highly than Cassel.

[Mr. Krab]

Originally Posted by orange

Basically you have the Broncos getting Cassel and #33 for Cutler. That won't wash. They had better offers than this and turned them down. I think you (and some in the media) are vastly overestimating the Broncos' desperation to dump Cutler. They OWN him for three more years - plus maybe two more with the franchise tag depending on the new CBA. If they trade out for some low-grade QB like Cassel or Campbell, they're not going to go anywhere in the post-season, anyway, so they have no reason to dump Cutler just because. Any trade would have to actually make sense.

um ... i think what started all your donk problems in the first place is that your Head Coach prefers Matt "low-grade" Cassel over Cutler.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by orange

Basically you have the Broncos getting Cassel and #33 for Cutler. That won't wash. They had better offers than this and turned them down. I think you (and some in the media) are vastly overestimating the Broncos' desperation to dump Cutler. They OWN him for three more years - plus maybe two more with the franchise tag depending on the new CBA. If they trade out for some low-grade QB like Cassel or Campbell, they're not going to go anywhere in the post-season, anyway, so they have no reason to dump Cutler just because. Any trade would have to actually make sense.

It's going to cost you your #48 as well.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by orange

They were going to get Cassel and a first rounder from Detroit or Tampa Bay however you slice the various rumors from two weeks ago.

You don't really believe that Denver nixed that proposal, do you?