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ShowtimeSBMVP · 03-29-2013, 01:25 PM

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Sounds like Matt Flynn heading to Oakland via trade, and Carson Palmer will be on his way out (possibly to AZ). trying to nail down details

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-30-2013, 09:18 AM

Hootie · 03-30-2013, 09:23 AM

great

I just love that argument.

"Matt Ryan blows because he loses in the playoffs."

JFC

for the record, his playoff losses have come to Arizona (should have won the Super Bowl), Packers (won the Super Bowl), Giants (won the Super Bowl) and the 49ers (probably should have won the Super Bowl)...

so yeah, he is 1-4 and lost while holding the #1 seed twice against the Packers (who no one was going to beat) and the 49ers (where he played a pretty good game)...

but the idea that Matt Ryan isn't, at the very least, a very good and capable QB is ****ing nonsense. He's 5 years into his career and he has shown great consistency and at least passes the god damn eye test.

I can't wait for someone to tell me they'd take Joe Flacco over Matt Ryan because Flacco has postseason success.

This board makes me want to gauge my eyes out sometimes.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-30-2013, 09:24 AM

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I've made very few mistakes in my 13 years on Chiefsplanet. Obviously, that was a HUGE mistake. I was vulnerable due to the situation and felt bad, even though I shouldn't have felt bad, about being a dick.

Trust me, you elven mother****er: It'll NEVER happen again.

And there's the crux; Dane doesn't ever want to be "wrong" on Chiefs Planet. Yes, what a grand crime against humanity that is! Lighten up, douchesprocket.
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Hootie · 03-30-2013, 09:26 AM

I mean, ****.

I simply can't stand this websites fixation with the insanely flawed premise of "a QB is only good if his postseason record is good."

It's ****ing stupid.

**BigMeatballDave** · 03-30-2013, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

I mean, ****.

I simply can't stand this websites fixation with the insanely flawed premise of "a QB is only good if his postseason record is good."

It's ****ing stupid.

It's not flawed. It's how a QBs career is graded, wholly.

Hootie · 03-30-2013, 09:39 AM

so

let me hear you say it Dave

you'd take Joe Flacco over Matt Ryan.

Go.

**BigMeatballDave** · 03-30-2013, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

so

let me hear you say it Dave

you'd take Joe Flacco over Matt Ryan.

Go.

Considering the goal in the NFL is to win in the postseason, yes.

I'll ask you: Who's had more to work with on their team?

Matt Ryan is clearly a better regular season QB.

Flacco has had more success in the playoffs.

People don't remember the regular season. There are no trophies for that.

It's all about the SB.

Hootie · 03-30-2013, 09:50 AM

so then you'd take Joe Flacco over every single NFL QB.

Got it.

Messier · 03-30-2013, 09:50 AM

I don't think it's wrong to value a QB that wins when it matters. I'd take a QB that throws only 3100 yards and 21 TDs, over a 4000 30 plus TD QB if the first QB was clutch in the playoffs. I know winning is a team thing, and you can't blame or credit a QB completely for wins and losses, but there is something to be said for a QB that makes the right plays in big games.

**BigMeatballDave** · 03-30-2013, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

so then you'd take Joe Flacco over every single NFL QB.

Got it.

Hootie · 03-30-2013, 09:57 AM

hm

well I'm not counting the Rahim Moore miracle as a clutch play. It was a hail mary that worked.

...other than that, I just don't see what Joe Flacco did this postseason that was so unbelievably remarkable. The Colts were clearly inferior. He played well against Denver but down the stretch they were practically R2P2...to the point where people were criticizing Caldwell for his playcalling...and they ended up winning because of a terrible Manning play. New England couldn't convert a 3rd and short all game long...Flacco played good but the Ravens defense held a potent New England offense in check an entire game...and kept them in the game in the 1st half when the Ravens couldn't get anything going on offense...

and then he played a great half against the 49ers and they almost "Matt Ryan'd" the game when Kaepernick was 1st and Goal to win the Super Bowl only for the Ravens defense to AGAIN step up..

so yes, Joe Flacco had a very efficient postseason. But outside of the Rahim Moore nonsense...where exactly did Joe Flacco make these "clutch" plays? When did he have an Eli Manning postseason moment? If you want to count Rahim Moore's worst play in NFL history, so be it...

but outside of the Denver game, they were the best TEAM in every game they played. God damn I can't wait for 2013 so Flacco can be Flacco and I can stop having to debate this fallacy of him being elite.

Mother****erJones · 03-30-2013, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

hm

well I'm not counting the Rahim Moore miracle as a clutch play. It was a hail mary that worked.

...other than that, I just don't see what Joe Flacco did this postseason that was so unbelievably remarkable. The Colts were clearly inferior. He played well against Denver but down the stretch they were practically R2P2...to the point where people were criticizing Caldwell for his playcalling...and they ended up winning because of a terrible Manning play. New England couldn't convert a 3rd and short all game long...Flacco played good but the Ravens defense held a potent New England offense in check an entire game...and kept them in the game in the 1st half when the Ravens couldn't get anything going on offense...

and then he played a great half against the 49ers and they almost "Matt Ryan'd" the game when Kaepernick was 1st and Goal to win the Super Bowl only for the Ravens defense to AGAIN step up..

so yes, Joe Flacco had a very efficient postseason. But outside of the Rahim Moore nonsense...where exactly did Joe Flacco make these "clutch" plays? When did he have an Eli Manning postseason moment? If you want to count Rahim Moore's worst play in NFL history, so be it...

but outside of the Denver game, they were the best TEAM in every game they played. God damn I can't wait for 2013 so Flacco can be Flacco and I can stop having to debate this fallacy of him being elite.

Did you count the miracle 14 special teams points? The games not close

Hootie · 03-30-2013, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

Did you count the miracle 14 special teams points? The games not close

Facepalm

patteeu · 03-30-2013, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

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R8RFAN · 03-30-2013, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon

Dorsey and Caldwell are both going to have a chance to draft Geno and pass. Our teams ****ing suck.

There is no doubt the ****ing Jags suck... Probably the worst team with the smallest fanbase in the NFL

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03-30-2013, 09:23 AM	#347
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	great I just love that argument. "Matt Ryan blows because he loses in the playoffs." JFC for the record, his playoff losses have come to Arizona (should have won the Super Bowl), Packers (won the Super Bowl), Giants (won the Super Bowl) and the 49ers (probably should have won the Super Bowl)... so yeah, he is 1-4 and lost while holding the #1 seed twice against the Packers (who no one was going to beat) and the 49ers (where he played a pretty good game)... but the idea that Matt Ryan isn't, at the very least, a very good and capable QB is ****ing nonsense. He's 5 years into his career and he has shown great consistency and at least passes the god damn eye test. I can't wait for someone to tell me they'd take Joe Flacco over Matt Ryan because Flacco has postseason success. This board makes me want to gauge my eyes out sometimes.
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03-30-2013, 09:26 AM	#349
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I mean, **. I simply can't stand this websites fixation with the insanely flawed premise of "a QB is only good if his postseason record is good." It's **ing stupid.
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03-30-2013, 09:39 AM	#351
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	so let me hear you say it Dave you'd take Joe Flacco over Matt Ryan. Go.
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03-30-2013, 09:50 AM	#353
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	so then you'd take Joe Flacco over every single NFL QB. Got it.
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03-30-2013, 09:50 AM	#354
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03-30-2013, 09:57 AM	#356
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	hm well I'm not counting the Rahim Moore miracle as a clutch play. It was a hail mary that worked. ...other than that, I just don't see what Joe Flacco did this postseason that was so unbelievably remarkable. The Colts were clearly inferior. He played well against Denver but down the stretch they were practically R2P2...to the point where people were criticizing Caldwell for his playcalling...and they ended up winning because of a terrible Manning play. New England couldn't convert a 3rd and short all game long...Flacco played good but the Ravens defense held a potent New England offense in check an entire game...and kept them in the game in the 1st half when the Ravens couldn't get anything going on offense... and then he played a great half against the 49ers and they almost "Matt Ryan'd" the game when Kaepernick was 1st and Goal to win the Super Bowl only for the Ravens defense to AGAIN step up.. so yes, Joe Flacco had a very efficient postseason. But outside of the Rahim Moore nonsense...where exactly did Joe Flacco make these "clutch" plays? When did he have an Eli Manning postseason moment? If you want to count Rahim Moore's worst play in NFL history, so be it... but outside of the Denver game, they were the best TEAM in every game they played. God damn I can't wait for 2013 so Flacco can be Flacco and I can stop having to debate this fallacy of him being elite.
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