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Deberg_1990 · 04-12-2013, 06:26 AM

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...pitch/2076525/

The Los Angeles Dodgers won the game Thursday night against the San Diego Padres, but their pennant hopes certainly took a hit.

Dodgers starter Zack Greinke fractured his left collarbone in a bench-clearing brawl during the Dodgers' 3-2 victory over the Padres at Petco Park, prompting enraged Dodgers center fielder Matt Kemp to confront Padres left fielder Carlos Quentin in the clubhouse tunnel after the game.

Padres starter Clayton Richard and security guards intervened before another fight ensued.

The brawl started when Quentin was hit in the shoulder by Greinke's pitch in the sixth inning. He took several steps towards the mound with his bat, dropped it, and charged Greinke. It was the second time in four years that Greinke hit Quentin, but Quentin was intercepted by Kansas City Royals catcher Miguel Olivo and home-plate umpire Bill Hohn back on April 9, 2009, when Greinke pitched for the Royals and Quentin played for the Chicago White Sox.

This time, no one held anyone back, with Greinke, Kemp and Jerry Hairston ejected from the Dodgers, along with Quentin.

The biggest losers, of course, were the Dodgers, with Greinke sidelined for an indefinite period. He's scheduled to see Los Angles physician Neal ElAttrache on Friday. Greinke signed a six-year, $147 million free-agent contract during the winter.

"My teammate now has a broken f------ collarbone,'' Hairston told reporters. "Excuse my language, but that's unbelievable.''

Said Quentin: "It's unfortunate. It could have been avoided. You can ask Zack about that.

"For me, I've been hit by many pitches in my career. I think you guys know that. I can tell you I've never responded in that fashion, so you guys can do your homework on that. For me, the situation is done. That's it.''

Quentin was most infuriated, he told reporters, by what Greinke told him after he was hit.

"That was the final straw,'' he said.

Kemp, enraged by the incident, met face to face with Quentin in the hallway after the game at Petco Park. He followed Quentin into the parking lot and saying: "We'll see, b----,'' according to the Los Angeles Times.

"That's terrible for him to charge the mound like that,'' Kemp told reporters. "I think Carlos Quentin went to Stanford. I heard there's some smart people at Stanford. That wasn't too smart.''

Dodgers manager Don Mattingly said that Quentin shouldn't be permitted to play another game until Greinke can pitch.

"We're in a 2-1 game and on a 3-2 pitch to a guy that I see on the [score]board set a record for the Padres by getting hit, a guy who basically dives into the plate,'' Mattingly said, according to the MLB.com report. "In a 2-1 game, we're trying to hit him, 3-2?

"It's just stupid is what it is. He should not play a game until Greinke can pitch. If he plays before Greinke pitches, something is wrong.''

Said Greinke: "The only thing I'm going to say about the whole thing that happened there is I've never hit him on purpose. I never thought of hitting him on purpose.''

Quentin has long been a magnet for pitches. In 2004, he set a minor league record by getting plunked 43 times, and he led the major leagues the past two seasons, getting hit 23 times in 2011 and 17 times last year, even though he played just 86 games.

Greinke told reporters he thought Quentin's umbrage in reacting to getting hit by pitches was "a ploy" to intimidate pitchers.

"I figured he was trying to intimidate pitchers so they wouldn't throw inside,' he said.

The Dodgers and Padres play again Monday, this time, in Los Angeles at Dodger Stadium on Jackie Robinson Day.

KChiefer · 04-12-2013, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

The radio guys said Carlos and Greinke have a history back from their White Sox/Royals days? Anyone remember any other incidents between them?

Quentin said Greinke hit him 2 or 3 times before. Quentin was also hit on the wrist a few days ago by someone else.

KChiefer · 04-12-2013, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Lol, Grienke throwing his glove down is the most bad*** move I've seen by a pitcher since Nolan Ryan headlocked that other thugsock. Also, could Quentin even feel that pitch with that bullet-proof armor cloaked around his arm? Quentin's reaction was completely ridiculous, and for the Dodgers sake, I hope Greinke recovers soon.

Worst mound chargings ever:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7...in-mlb-history

Damnit Robin

Radar Chief · 04-12-2013, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ImAWalkingCorpse

Hey, the 5 on 2 is a legit, if illegal, wrestling move.
Somebody needs to teach Greinke the double leg takedown though. Quentin was wide the hell open for it, twice.

Dr. Gigglepants · 04-12-2013, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

The radio guys said Carlos and Greinke have a history back from their White Sox/Royals days? Anyone remember any other incidents between them?

Quentin tried to rush him in '09 after getting hit, got cut off by Olivo and the homeplate ump. Don't remember the incident, but read about it this morning. According to the article, that is the only real history btwn the two. Sounds like classic roid rage to me. Dodgers have every right to be pissed, no way it was intentional.
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BlackHelicopters · 04-12-2013, 07:06 AM

Wow. Anger issues.

KChiefer · 04-12-2013, 07:06 AM

Watching the Greinke interview. Both times he says he didn't throw at him on purpose he immediately looks up at the ceiling. That's a tell.

Radar Chief · 04-12-2013, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer

Watching the Greinke interview. Both times he says he didn't throw at him on purpose he immediately looks up at the ceiling. That's a tell.

That pitch was so high and outside I don’t know how it could not be intentional.

Lex Luthor · 04-12-2013, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer

Watching the Greinke interview. Both times he says he didn't throw at him on purpose he immediately looks up at the ceiling. That's a tell.

I despise Zack Greinke, but you are full of shit on this. This is the king of social awkwardness you're talking about. That's not a tell.

Three7s · 04-12-2013, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

The radio guys said Carlos and Greinke have a history back from their White Sox/Royals days? Anyone remember any other incidents between them?

Yep, back in 2009, Greinke plunked him and tried charging the mound then, but Olivo stopped him.

Lex Luthor · 04-12-2013, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief

That pitch was so high and outside I don’t know how it could not be intentional.

Actually it was high and INSIDE. Have you ever watched a baseball game?

CaliforniaChief · 04-12-2013, 07:19 AM

Let me pause and offer sympathy to Zack Greinke and the Dodgers...ok done.

WhawhaWhat · 04-12-2013, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Three7s

Yep, back in 2009, Greinke plunked him and tried charging the mound then, but Olivo stopped him.

Nobody is making it through Olivo.

WhitiE · 04-12-2013, 07:21 AM

Did that caller just say "****ing idiot" on mike and mike?

Radar Chief · 04-12-2013, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac

Actually it was high and INSIDE. Have you ever watched a baseball game?

Ok, “inside”. You can go eat a bag of dicks now.

Lex Luthor · 04-12-2013, 07:28 AM

99% of the time that a player charges the mound, it's a bullshit move. I still remember when Reggie Sanders charged the mound after Pedro Martinez hit him with a pitch on an 0-2 count. At the time Martinez was pitching a perfect game, and it was in the 8th inning. There's no ****ing way Martinez hit Sanders on purpose, yet there was Sanders trying to prove what a man he was by charging the mound.

Like I said in an earlier post, I despise Zack Greinke. But in this case I agree with Mattingly: Carlos Quentin should be suspended until Greinke pitches again. That might make assholes like him think twice before they charge the mound.

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Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	Greinke Brawls..breaks collarbone http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...pitch/2076525/ The Los Angeles Dodgers won the game Thursday night against the San Diego Padres, but their pennant hopes certainly took a hit. Dodgers starter Zack Greinke fractured his left collarbone in a bench-clearing brawl during the Dodgers' 3-2 victory over the Padres at Petco Park, prompting enraged Dodgers center fielder Matt Kemp to confront Padres left fielder Carlos Quentin in the clubhouse tunnel after the game. Padres starter Clayton Richard and security guards intervened before another fight ensued. The brawl started when Quentin was hit in the shoulder by Greinke's pitch in the sixth inning. He took several steps towards the mound with his bat, dropped it, and charged Greinke. It was the second time in four years that Greinke hit Quentin, but Quentin was intercepted by Kansas City Royals catcher Miguel Olivo and home-plate umpire Bill Hohn back on April 9, 2009, when Greinke pitched for the Royals and Quentin played for the Chicago White Sox. This time, no one held anyone back, with Greinke, Kemp and Jerry Hairston ejected from the Dodgers, along with Quentin. The biggest losers, of course, were the Dodgers, with Greinke sidelined for an indefinite period. He's scheduled to see Los Angles physician Neal ElAttrache on Friday. Greinke signed a six-year, $147 million free-agent contract during the winter. "My teammate now has a broken f------ collarbone,'' Hairston told reporters. "Excuse my language, but that's unbelievable.'' Said Quentin: "It's unfortunate. It could have been avoided. You can ask Zack about that. "For me, I've been hit by many pitches in my career. I think you guys know that. I can tell you I've never responded in that fashion, so you guys can do your homework on that. For me, the situation is done. That's it.'' Quentin was most infuriated, he told reporters, by what Greinke told him after he was hit. "That was the final straw,'' he said. Kemp, enraged by the incident, met face to face with Quentin in the hallway after the game at Petco Park. He followed Quentin into the parking lot and saying: "We'll see, b----,'' according to the Los Angeles Times. "That's terrible for him to charge the mound like that,'' Kemp told reporters. "I think Carlos Quentin went to Stanford. I heard there's some smart people at Stanford. That wasn't too smart.'' Dodgers manager Don Mattingly said that Quentin shouldn't be permitted to play another game until Greinke can pitch. "We're in a 2-1 game and on a 3-2 pitch to a guy that I see on the [score]board set a record for the Padres by getting hit, a guy who basically dives into the plate,'' Mattingly said, according to the MLB.com report. "In a 2-1 game, we're trying to hit him, 3-2? "It's just stupid is what it is. He should not play a game until Greinke can pitch. If he plays before Greinke pitches, something is wrong.'' Said Greinke: "The only thing I'm going to say about the whole thing that happened there is I've never hit him on purpose. I never thought of hitting him on purpose.'' Quentin has long been a magnet for pitches. In 2004, he set a minor league record by getting plunked 43 times, and he led the major leagues the past two seasons, getting hit 23 times in 2011 and 17 times last year, even though he played just 86 games. Greinke told reporters he thought Quentin's umbrage in reacting to getting hit by pitches was "a ploy" to intimidate pitchers. "I figured he was trying to intimidate pitchers so they wouldn't throw inside,' he said. The Dodgers and Padres play again Monday, this time, in Los Angeles at Dodger Stadium on Jackie Robinson Day.
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Lex Luthor MVP Join Date: Mar 2010 Casino cash: $10022775	99% of the time that a player charges the mound, it's a bullshit move. I still remember when Reggie Sanders charged the mound after Pedro Martinez hit him with a pitch on an 0-2 count. At the time Martinez was pitching a perfect game, and it was in the 8th inning. There's no ****ing way Martinez hit Sanders on purpose, yet there was Sanders trying to prove what a man he was by charging the mound. Like I said in an earlier post, I despise Zack Greinke. But in this case I agree with Mattingly: Carlos Quentin should be suspended until Greinke pitches again. That might make assholes like him think twice before they charge the mound.
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