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**DaneMcCloud** · 12:47 PM

There's quite a bit of info trickling out so its probably time to start a spoiler thread. I'll update with a trailer when it's available.

Trailer #1. This looks amazing!!! Darth Vader, The Emperor, Jyn (Rey's mother?), Forrest Whitaker, Donnie Yen and Alan Tudyk.

Hammock Parties · 06-02-2016, 08:29 PM

So apparently half the story will be about the Death Star plans being stolen and the other half will be about Jar Jar Binks backstory.

BigBeauford · 06-02-2016, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Smellway

So apparently half the story will be about the Death Star plans being stolen and the other half will be about Jar Jar Binks backstory.

"Meeesa Rebel!"

RINGLEADER · 06-03-2016, 03:10 AM

Although this is a surprise, it really shouldn't be. Gareth Edwards has made two movies. A low-budget film that was ok and Godzilla (which sucked in my opinion). The fact that there may be trouble with his work on Rogue One should not surprise anyone, and I think KK is reaping what she sowed when she brought in the "up-and-comer" directors to steer the Star Wars universe when they're not the best directors (and this franchise could attract the best).

tk13 · 06-03-2016, 09:14 AM

McQuarrie has come out and said these reports aren't true. If there are reshoots happening, he's not supervising anything. He's been bashing these bloggers on Twitter.

**DaneMcCloud** · 06-03-2016, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Although this is a surprise, it really shouldn't be. Gareth Edwards has made two movies. A low-budget film that was ok and Godzilla (which sucked in my opinion). The fact that there may be trouble with his work on Rogue One should not surprise anyone, and I think KK is reaping what she sowed when she brought in the "up-and-comer" directors to steer the Star Wars universe when they're not the best directors (and this franchise could attract the best).

True and she certainly jumped the gun on Josh Trank, who turned out to be a disaster. But JJ Abrams, Rian Johnson, Colin Trevorrow, Phil Lord & Chris Miller were good hires.

I just think she rushed the "Anthology" series (now "A Star Wars Story") and this film is more of a challenge than anyone at LucasFilm could have imagined.

**Bowser** · 06-03-2016, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13

McQuarrie has come out and said these reports aren't true. If there are reshoots happening, he's not supervising anything. He's been bashing these bloggers on Twitter.

Interesting. This is the problem with the internet - you never know exactly what is true, kinda true, or just plain bunk.

**Anyong Bluth** · 06-03-2016, 12:57 PM

I know enough to know I'll never know who ultimately is responsible for this if the movie sucks.

I'll defer to siding with talent by default since studios are ripe with cramming a promising project into their own narrow vision.

**DaneMcCloud** · 06-03-2016, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

I know enough to know I'll never know who ultimately is responsible for this if the movie sucks.

I'll defer to siding with talent by default since studios are ripe with cramming a promising project into their own narrow vision.

The Force Awakens changed everything in terms of tone and expectations.

Purchasing LucasFilm from Lucas for $4 billion dollars is the steal of the millennia.

**DaneMcCloud** · 06-03-2016, 04:04 PM

Okay, this is more in line with that I was told and it sounds like, from what Anyong was told. The addition of Tony Gilroy is interesting...

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/03/rogue-one-reshoots

Here’s what’s happening with Rogue One:

Over the past week, numerous stories have emerged about reshoots on the first of the Star Wars stand-alone films, and fans have become as nervous and jittery as C-3PO at a Star Trek convention. After reaching out to deeply placed sources on the movie and at Lucasfilm to sort fact from fiction, Entertainment Weekly has learned new details about the state of the project – including who’s working on the new sequences and what those scenes involve. Here’s what’s true: The film, which is about Rebels stealing the plans for the first Death Star just before the events of 1977’s original Star Wars, is undergoing four to five weeks of reshoots, beginning this month and ending just days before the Star Wars Celebration fan event in London on July 15.

High level sources at Lucasfilm, who spoke to EW independently and anonymously, offered some details that place the schedule in context. (Official studio sources declined comment, saying they don’t respond to rumors.) In what may reassure fans, reshoots were scheduled for the film before even a single scene was shot. It’s standard practice now for large-scale films to build in additional weeks of shooting so filmmakers can tweak a movie after the first assembly cut. Those reshoots were originally planned for the spring, but were bumped to mid-summer to allow for extra time as director Gareth Edwards and the creative team decided what they wanted to alter. “The changes have everything to do with clarity and character development and all take place [as inserts] within scenes we’ve already shot,” said one source on the project.

In other words, the changes involve more intimate moments – not redoing entire battle sequences or plot lines. “It’s a lot of talking in cockpits,” as one insider described the new footage. The plan now is to lock picture in mid-August and begin scoring the movie in September – which would actually be an earlier timeline than The Force Awakens, which also underwent several weeks of summer reshoots and locked picture in October.

The rumor that almost half the movie is being reshot elicits both laughter and groans from those closest to the film. While it might seem like spin-control from those working on the film, their logic bears out: “If we were rewriting the movie and reshooting 40 percent of movie, we would not be finishing in August,” a source on the production says. “People really would be panicking – and changing the release date.” The length of the reshoots adds up because it involves separate contributions from many different actors. Rogue One is an ensemble story with seven major characters, including the outlaw Jyn Erso (played by Felicity Jones), and her team of Rebel infiltrators played by Diego Luna, Donnie Yen, Alan Tudyk (as a performance capture droid), Riz Ahmed, Forest Whitaker, and Wen Jiang. Ben Mendelsohn costars as an Imperial officer, and Mads Mikkelson has said he plays Jyn’s father.

A source familiar with the reshoots said one of the challenges has been reuniting the cast, many of whom are involved in other movies after the pre-planned reshoots were shifted from the spring to summer. “It is a complicated schedule trying to pull people in around other things they’re doing,” the source says. “And this cast is spread out all over the world.”

Rumors that Christopher McQuarrie, best known for writing the Oscar-winning script for The Usual Suspects and writing and directing Mission: Impossible – Rogue Nation, has written a new script and will be involved in co-directing the reshoots are false. McQuarrie did make contributions to an earlier draft of the script, sources confirm. But that’s the extent of his work on Rogue One. As rumors about his involvement in the Star Wars film began to spread yesterday, McQuarrie himself took to Twitter to deny them. But EW’s reporting has uncovered a new collaborator on Rogue One: Tony Gilroy, the writer-director of Michael Clayton. He was brought aboard the project in the spring to offer notes on the first cut and write some additional material to enhance the story.

Gilroy has deep ties to the Rogue One team. He also worked on the screenplays for many of the Bourne films and even directed 2012’s The Bourne Legacy, which were all produced by Frank Marshall, the husband of Kathleen Kennedy, who is the president of Lucasfilm. One source says he’s trusted by Kennedy and the story team, and has even been recruited to consult on other Star Wars projects. In addition to his Kennedy-Marshall history, Gilroy has worked before with Rogue One director Edwards, having done similar uncredited work on the filmmaker’s previous movie, 2014’s Godzilla, to strengthen the story before release. In addition to writing new dialogue for the reshoots, Gilroy will assist Edwards as a second unit director when cameras start rolling again.

A GRITTIER TONE

Fears that the heavy-duty war movie is being watered down into a lighthearted caper are unfounded, according to what EW has learned. “The movie is very different than [The Force Awakens], and that’s intentional,” one source says. “It’s a war film.” Rumors that Disney executives have forced the changes to make the movie more family friendly are also false. According to EW’s sources, there have been no test screenings, and it’s unlikely there ever will be on a Star Wars film. The only two individuals outside of Lucasfilm who have seen Rogue One at this point are Disney CEO and Chairman Bob Iger and studio chief Alan Horn. One source close to the film said rather than feeling like Disney brass was meddling, the filmmakers were just happy the corporate bosses let them alter the schedule and make the changes they wanted. “This is a normal part of our filmmaking process,” that source said. “We’re working and tweaking and making sure it’s right. This is how you build something in layers.”

But there’s no question: the rumors have freaked out fans. In addition to alarming the audience, this week’s ;gossip – fueled by a report in the New York Post – has also frustrated the filmmaking team, who are starting to learn the massive enthusiasm for Star Wars can be a double-edged sword. The passion is over-the-top, but so is the scrutiny. “I can’t think of anything in world of creativity [that isn’t changed or reworked,]” one source said. “You need to do that when making these movies.”

One source asked that the Star Wars community give them the benefit of the doubt until the Celebration event in July, when some of what they’ve been working on with Rogue One will be unveiled: “People will go insane.”

**Anyong Bluth** · 06-03-2016, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Okay, this is more in line with that I was told and it sounds like, from what Anyong was told. The addition of Tony Gilroy is interesting...

This is more believable. I snickered at the 40% reshoot.

A blockbuster SW film just redoing 10% of the whole film each week. Please! Maybe if they were having a Lucas orgy and doing all greenscreen. Some of the lighting guys will spend 3+ days on prepping a 60 second practical shot . Technically, called a Kubrick sprint.

I'd love to see the first cut, but again, it's Disney, and that means zippo chance unless 20+ years down the road to boost repurchase sales.

Just Passin' By · 06-04-2016, 01:40 PM

Seems like a probable case of "somewhere in the middle"

**DaneMcCloud** · 06-05-2016, 10:07 AM

Depending upon whom you believe, reshoots on "Rogue One: A Star Wars Story" are either fairly minimal and mostly just about making it better, or they're extensive and part of some serious retooling. All seem to indicate the studio is keen on making something that's tonally more akin to the main "Star Wars" series and more familiar than the first cut screened for executives - one which is rumored to be more of a dark war movie than people might expect.

On Friday we learned that "Bourne" film series scribe Tony Gilroy had come onboard to help with re-writes. Now, THR reports that not only will Gilroy's role be more extensive than that, he'll be joined by someone else.

The trade says that along with re-writes, Gilroy will be behind the camera during additional filming, supervising the reshoots, while veteran stunt coordinator and second unit director Simon Crane ("Edge of Tomorrow," "World War Z") will also assist in what's said to be six weeks of additional filming. This certainly raises a question as to director Gareth Edwards' involvement moving forward.

With the franchise now responsible for a massive revenue stream that includes box office, theme parks, toys and the like, the franchise will tread the safest and most wide appealing path possible - despite the spin-offs being sold on the idea that these are where the franchise can take the kinds of risks the main series can't.

At present the film is still on target for release on December 16th.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 06-05-2016, 11:10 AM

No one has posted the Vader clip?

Really?

**DaneMcCloud** · 06-05-2016, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit

No one has posted the Vader clip?

Really?

Is there one? The only thing even remotely Vader that I've seen is him supposedly in the bacta tank.

Post it!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 06-05-2016, 11:35 AM

Well this is weird. I must have watched this thing 6 times last night, and it is way too polished to be a fan fake.

I can't find it now.

It starts off with a schematic of the death star and communications between rebels chattering in the back ground.

It reveals Vader walking like a badass, leading troopers and a commander, then it has a graphic of the original, cheesmo holo-death star that was generated on Yavin base.

Last shot is Vader from behind, looking at what I assume is a ship taking off.

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06-03-2016, 04:04 PM	#204
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	Okay, this is more in line with that I was told and it sounds like, from what Anyong was told. The addition of Tony Gilroy is interesting... http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/03/rogue-one-reshoots Here’s what’s happening with Rogue One: Over the past week, numerous stories have emerged about reshoots on the first of the Star Wars stand-alone films, and fans have become as nervous and jittery as C-3PO at a Star Trek convention. After reaching out to deeply placed sources on the movie and at Lucasfilm to sort fact from fiction, Entertainment Weekly has learned new details about the state of the project – including who’s working on the new sequences and what those scenes involve. Here’s what’s true: The film, which is about Rebels stealing the plans for the first Death Star just before the events of 1977’s original Star Wars, is undergoing four to five weeks of reshoots, beginning this month and ending just days before the Star Wars Celebration fan event in London on July 15. High level sources at Lucasfilm, who spoke to EW independently and anonymously, offered some details that place the schedule in context. (Official studio sources declined comment, saying they don’t respond to rumors.) In what may reassure fans, reshoots were scheduled for the film before even a single scene was shot. It’s standard practice now for large-scale films to build in additional weeks of shooting so filmmakers can tweak a movie after the first assembly cut. Those reshoots were originally planned for the spring, but were bumped to mid-summer to allow for extra time as director Gareth Edwards and the creative team decided what they wanted to alter. “The changes have everything to do with clarity and character development and all take place [as inserts] within scenes we’ve already shot,” said one source on the project. In other words, the changes involve more intimate moments – not redoing entire battle sequences or plot lines. “It’s a lot of talking in cockpits,” as one insider described the new footage. The plan now is to lock picture in mid-August and begin scoring the movie in September – which would actually be an earlier timeline than The Force Awakens, which also underwent several weeks of summer reshoots and locked picture in October. The rumor that almost half the movie is being reshot elicits both laughter and groans from those closest to the film. While it might seem like spin-control from those working on the film, their logic bears out: “If we were rewriting the movie and reshooting 40 percent of movie, we would not be finishing in August,” a source on the production says. “People really would be panicking – and changing the release date.” The length of the reshoots adds up because it involves separate contributions from many different actors. Rogue One is an ensemble story with seven major characters, including the outlaw Jyn Erso (played by Felicity Jones), and her team of Rebel infiltrators played by Diego Luna, Donnie Yen, Alan Tudyk (as a performance capture droid), Riz Ahmed, Forest Whitaker, and Wen Jiang. Ben Mendelsohn costars as an Imperial officer, and Mads Mikkelson has said he plays Jyn’s father. A source familiar with the reshoots said one of the challenges has been reuniting the cast, many of whom are involved in other movies after the pre-planned reshoots were shifted from the spring to summer. “It is a complicated schedule trying to pull people in around other things they’re doing,” the source says. “And this cast is spread out all over the world.” Rumors that Christopher McQuarrie, best known for writing the Oscar-winning script for The Usual Suspects and writing and directing Mission: Impossible – Rogue Nation, has written a new script and will be involved in co-directing the reshoots are false. McQuarrie did make contributions to an earlier draft of the script, sources confirm. But that’s the extent of his work on Rogue One. As rumors about his involvement in the Star Wars film began to spread yesterday, McQuarrie himself took to Twitter to deny them. But EW’s reporting has uncovered a new collaborator on Rogue One: Tony Gilroy, the writer-director of Michael Clayton. He was brought aboard the project in the spring to offer notes on the first cut and write some additional material to enhance the story. Gilroy has deep ties to the Rogue One team. He also worked on the screenplays for many of the Bourne films and even directed 2012’s The Bourne Legacy, which were all produced by Frank Marshall, the husband of Kathleen Kennedy, who is the president of Lucasfilm. One source says he’s trusted by Kennedy and the story team, and has even been recruited to consult on other Star Wars projects. In addition to his Kennedy-Marshall history, Gilroy has worked before with Rogue One director Edwards, having done similar uncredited work on the filmmaker’s previous movie, 2014’s Godzilla, to strengthen the story before release. In addition to writing new dialogue for the reshoots, Gilroy will assist Edwards as a second unit director when cameras start rolling again. A GRITTIER TONE Fears that the heavy-duty war movie is being watered down into a lighthearted caper are unfounded, according to what EW has learned. “The movie is very different than [The Force Awakens], and that’s intentional,” one source says. “It’s a war film.” Rumors that Disney executives have forced the changes to make the movie more family friendly are also false. According to EW’s sources, there have been no test screenings, and it’s unlikely there ever will be on a Star Wars film. The only two individuals outside of Lucasfilm who have seen Rogue One at this point are Disney CEO and Chairman Bob Iger and studio chief Alan Horn. One source close to the film said rather than feeling like Disney brass was meddling, the filmmakers were just happy the corporate bosses let them alter the schedule and make the changes they wanted. “This is a normal part of our filmmaking process,” that source said. “We’re working and tweaking and making sure it’s right. This is how you build something in layers.” But there’s no question: the rumors have freaked out fans. In addition to alarming the audience, this week’s ;gossip – fueled by a report in the New York Post – has also frustrated the filmmaking team, who are starting to learn the massive enthusiasm for Star Wars can be a double-edged sword. The passion is over-the-top, but so is the scrutiny. “I can’t think of anything in world of creativity [that isn’t changed or reworked,]” one source said. “You need to do that when making these movies.” One source asked that the Star Wars community give them the benefit of the doubt until the Celebration event in July, when some of what they’ve been working on with Rogue One will be unveiled: “People will go insane.”
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DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	Depending upon whom you believe, reshoots on "Rogue One: A Star Wars Story" are either fairly minimal and mostly just about making it better, or they're extensive and part of some serious retooling. All seem to indicate the studio is keen on making something that's tonally more akin to the main "Star Wars" series and more familiar than the first cut screened for executives - one which is rumored to be more of a dark war movie than people might expect. On Friday we learned that "Bourne" film series scribe Tony Gilroy had come onboard to help with re-writes. Now, THR reports that not only will Gilroy's role be more extensive than that, he'll be joined by someone else. The trade says that along with re-writes, Gilroy will be behind the camera during additional filming, supervising the reshoots, while veteran stunt coordinator and second unit director Simon Crane ("Edge of Tomorrow," "World War Z") will also assist in what's said to be six weeks of additional filming. This certainly raises a question as to director Gareth Edwards' involvement moving forward. With the franchise now responsible for a massive revenue stream that includes box office, theme parks, toys and the like, the franchise will tread the safest and most wide appealing path possible - despite the spin-offs being sold on the idea that these are where the franchise can take the kinds of risks the main series can't. At present the film is still on target for release on December 16th.
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Sweet Daddy Hate Unsparing Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	Well this is weird. I must have watched this thing 6 times last night, and it is way too polished to be a fan fake. I can't find it now. It starts off with a schematic of the death star and communications between rebels chattering in the back ground. It reveals Vader walking like a badass, leading troopers and a commander, then it has a graphic of the original, cheesmo holo-death star that was generated on Yavin base. Last shot is Vader from behind, looking at what I assume is a ship taking off.
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