Chiefs Armchair GM...

Chiefaholic · 02-27-2009, 11:16 PM

Every player is important to a team reguardless of position. What good is a great QB is his O-Line blows chunks? What good is a great HB if his first cut is two yards behind the line of scrimmage (excluding Barry Sanders)? What good is a great DE if the DT's can't collapse the pocket? What good is a great CB is the opposing QB has 5-7 seconds to complete a pass?

Rank a team in what you think should be the order of importance....

1. QB
2. DE
3. OT
4. DT
5. HB
6. WR
7. OLB
8. ILB
9. C
10. CB
11. TE
12. OG
13. K
14. SS
15. FS
16. P
17. FB

brain1081 · 02-28-2009, 12:06 AM

This is really tough but....

1. QB (it's the only position in which there is only one and it's never subbed for except injury)
2. OT
3. DE
4. OG
5. DT
6. C
*if you can't tell I think OL and DL are really important*

7. LB (sorry but I'm grouping them altogether, otherwise they'd just be 7 and 8 like you did)
8. CB
9. HB
10. S (again I'm grouping Safeties together)
11. WR
12. K
13. FB
14. P
15. TE (I could easily switch this with FB or WR depending on the team and player, for instance with TG I put this at 11, WR at 13, and FB at 15)

aturnis · 02-28-2009, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefaholic

1. QB
2. DE
3. OT
4. DT
5. HB
6. WR
7. OLB
8. ILB
9. C
10. CB
11. TE
12. OG
13. K
14. SS
15. FS
16. P
17. FB

You've got the Guards and Center mixed up. Guards, at least from an athletically gifted standpoint are more important than the center. Center needs to be smart though.

Also, I really like that you put your DE ahead of your OT. A great DE is underrated, while a good OT is overrated most times. Most times, a really good OT will do just as well for your team as a GREAT offensive tackle. DE's though, are hard to find. Derrick Thomas's don't come around often.

blueballs · 02-28-2009, 12:56 AM

Kill off Saturn and Buick
and all crossovers

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-28-2009, 12:59 AM

4-3

QB
RDE
LT
DT (3 technique)
WR 1
CB
HB
MLB
FS
SS
NT
CB 2
ROLB
LOLB
RT
TE
LG
RG
C

kcchiefsus · 02-28-2009, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

4-3

QB
RDE
LT
DT (3 technique)
WR 1
CB
HB
MLB
FS
SS
DT (under tackle)
CB 2
ROLB
LOLB
RT
TE
LG
RG
C

Three technique and the under tackle are the same thing.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-28-2009, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

Three technique and the under tackle are the same thing.

I'm tired. I just wrote it twice.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-28-2009, 01:23 AM

1. QB
2. OT
3. DE
4. DT
5. WR( such a pass-oriented game these days )
6. CB ( " " " " " " " )
7. HB
8. ILB / OLB( What kind of scheme are we running here? )
9.
10. C
11. OG
12. FS
13. SS
14. TE
15. K
16. P
17. FB

Hammock Parties · 02-28-2009, 01:24 AM

How can you put center so far down the list?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-28-2009, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan

How can you put center so far down the list?

I calls 'em as I sees 'em. I see your point though, and it WAS kind of a bitch to move it down that far.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-28-2009, 01:30 AM

You were referring to Hamas; my bad.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-28-2009, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan

How can you put center so far down the list?

Think about where most of those players get drafted.

Elite players of all positions, save everyone right of the LT, go in the top 20 picks.

I don't think a center has gone in the first for years, and not above 20 in probably 15 or so.

The fact of the matter is that you can find good interior lineman through UDFA and the late rounds.

Think about Waters, Jeff Saturday, Kris Dielman, Matt Birk. There are scores of these guys.

Hammock Parties · 02-28-2009, 01:31 AM

I was talking to Hamas.

10 is about right IMO

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-28-2009, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan

I was talking to Hamas.

10 is about right IMO

Who affects a game more?

Troy Polamalu and Ed Reed or Matt Birk or Kevin Mawae?

Hammock Parties · 02-28-2009, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Think about where most of those players get drafted.

Elite players of all positions, save everyone right of the LT, go in the top 20 picks.

I don't think a center has gone in the first for years, and not above 20 in probably 15 or so.

The fact of the matter is that you can find good interior lineman through UDFA and the late rounds.

Think about Waters, Jeff Saturday, Kris Dielman, Matt Birk. There are scores of these guys.

IMO, that's just because it takes less physical talent to play the position.

It doesn't make the position less important.

If the worst starter on your team is the center, you might have some problems.

02-27-2009, 11:16 PM
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