Chiefs PFF Grades the Chiefs, Week 4 - Page 3

Hammock Parties · 10-03-2011, 05:28 PM

Wow, they got these up fast.

1. Branden Albert - had his best game of the year. Positive grades in run blocking and pass blocking. 0 pressures, sacks or hits allowed.

2. Ryan Lilja was awful and this guy needs to be replaced.

3. Barry Richardson was toasted. -3.4 pass blocking grade and 5 QB pressures.

4. Matt Cassel had an outstanding grade as expected. He also was credited with two sacks.

5. Despite what people are saying, Tyson, Gregg and Dorsey had very average games.

6. Tamba Hali was a freaking BEAST with a +7.4, 7 QB pressures, 2 sacks and 2 hits. AND three stops. That is unheard of.

7. Derrick Johnson and Jovan Belcher continued their excellent play. They combined for nine stops (6 to DJ) and 13 tackles overall.

8. Justin Houston had a terrible game, and only rushed the passer one time. He was beaten 4 times for 66 yards.

9. Sabby Pissandshitty was only on the field for 13 snaps.

10. Donald Washington was on the field for 66 snaps and got roasted, giving up 5 catches for 60 yards in 5 targets.

11. Brandon Flowers did not give up a catch.

Hammock Parties · 10-03-2011, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Von Miller has an overall SEASON grade of 12.6 as of last week. And it should be higher this week because he added two more sacks to his season total.

No one gives a shit. Take it to your Donks board, this is a Chiefs grading thread. Von Miller has two pressures all year, which is as many as Allen Bailey. Fantastic pass rusher.

lcarus · 10-03-2011, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I still don't get the Waters thing. The guy was a pro bowler, we were a gazillion dollars under the salary cap, and the NFL Network said that NFL players said he was in the top 100 players in the league.

I guess one rationale is that they decided that he was third-best guard on the team and/or they had to get Asamoah on the field for long-term purposes. But if it's the latter case then they judged Lilja to be better than Waters, and a lot of facts would argue otherwise.

I know it was popular around here to say that Waters was no good, but again, a lot of facts would argue otherwise.

He was a leader on our team too, and a "NFL Man of the Year Award" recipient. Seems to be everything Pioli fantasizes about in a player. I get the feeling that after Carl was canned and Pioli & Co. were brought in, and Waters got all pissed because he got shut out when he tried approaching them during offseason (something like that). That probably lingered in Pioli's mind. I don't know. I can't think of any other reasons. Unless Pioli was gift wrapping him to his ass pals in New England....................................

Quesadilla Joe · 10-03-2011, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

No one gives a shit. Take it to your Donks board, this is a Chiefs grading thread. Von Miller has two pressures all year, which is as many as Allen Bailey. Fantastic pass rusher.

He is also 5th in the NFL in sacks despite the fact that he hardly ever rushes, when he does he normally brings down the QB. Tamba never drops into coverage, if Von rushed as many times as Tamba he would be leading the league in sacks.

Pasta Little Brioni · 10-03-2011, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

He is also 5th in the NFL in sacks despite the fact that he hardly ever rushes, when he does he normally brings down the QB. Tamba never drops into coverage, if Von rushed as many times as Tamba he would be leading the league in sacks.

Play time is over. It's nappy time now.

Hammock Parties · 10-03-2011, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

He is also 5th in the NFL in sacks despite the fact that he hardly ever rushes, when he does he normally brings down the QB. Tamba never drops into coverage, if Von rushed as many times as Tamba he would be leading the league in sacks.

He has two sacks. Congrats.

Quesadilla Joe · 10-03-2011, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

He has two sacks. Congrats.

He has 4 sacks (as many as Tamba) and two forced fumbles despite rushing 60% less than Tamba does.

Hammock Parties · 10-03-2011, 06:34 PM

Rushes by week:

Miller - 26, 29, 9

Hali - 30, 36, 36, 20

I am guessing Miller rushed 30 times yesterday so you are full of shit.

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He has 4 sacks (as many as Tamba) and two forced fumbles despite rushing 60% less than Tamba does.

I stand corrected.

**Rain Man** · 10-03-2011, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Von Miller has an overall SEASON grade of 12.6 as of last week. And it should be higher this week because he added two more sacks to his season total.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...titans-week-3/

Well, someone has to make the tackles. I suspect he's aided by the fact that there are no other defenders on the team.

**Gonzo** · 10-03-2011, 06:39 PM

I cannot ****ing believe how well Hali has adjusted to LB. I always thought he was to slow and not built for it. (Until last year)
That guy is unbreakable and better than anyone on the field at any given time.
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Quesadilla Joe · 10-03-2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

Rushes by week:

Miller - 26, 29, 9

Hali - 30, 36, 36, 20

I am guessing Miller rushed 30 times yesterday so you are full of shit.

I stand corrected.

Through 3 games Tamba rushed almost twice as much as Von. Von probably rushed more than he will in any game all year against Green Bay though.

Titty Meat · 10-03-2011, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I still don't get the Waters thing. The guy was a pro bowler, we were a gazillion dollars under the salary cap, and the NFL Network said that NFL players said he was in the top 100 players in the league.

I guess one rationale is that they decided that he was third-best guard on the team and/or they had to get Asamoah on the field for long-term purposes. But if it's the latter case then they judged Lilja to be better than Waters, and a lot of facts would argue otherwise.

I know it was popular around here to say that Waters was no good, but again, a lot of facts would argue otherwise.

Player rep with a big mouth.

Titty Meat · 10-03-2011, 06:43 PM

We all knew Houston would struggle in pass coverage it's cool I still think he's going to be a dominate pass rusher. I don't understand why they aren't letting him go more.

Nightfyre · 10-03-2011, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

He has 4 sacks (as many as Tamba) and two forced fumbles despite rushing 60% less than Tamba does.

You shouldn't even be posting here as a result of Denver's ability to pick Von Miller. GTFO. Also, nice sample size. When/If Von miller has a three year portfolio as Hali has had, then you can talk.

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If Denver picks in the top 10 next year I will leave this place forever.

FAX · 10-03-2011, 06:44 PM

Yeah ... Waters was probably one of the media's "sources close to the locker room". Now he's close to somebody else's locker room while we give a young guy his position.

FAX

whoman69 · 10-03-2011, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I still don't get the Waters thing. The guy was a pro bowler, we were a gazillion dollars under the salary cap, and the NFL Network said that NFL players said he was in the top 100 players in the league.

I guess one rationale is that they decided that he was third-best guard on the team and/or they had to get Asamoah on the field for long-term purposes. But if it's the latter case then they judged Lilja to be better than Waters, and a lot of facts would argue otherwise.

I know it was popular around here to say that Waters was no good, but again, a lot of facts would argue otherwise.

I thought at minimum they could convert Waters to RT. Shields played some LT when needed, Waters could do the same. He might be near the end of the road, but he's better than what we have. Since the cap doesn't come into play there was no reason not to keep him at least for depth.

10-03-2011, 05:28 PM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4470478	PFF Grades the Chiefs, Week 4 Wow, they got these up fast. 1. Branden Albert - had his best game of the year. Positive grades in run blocking and pass blocking. 0 pressures, sacks or hits allowed. 2. Ryan Lilja was awful and this guy needs to be replaced. 3. Barry Richardson was toasted. -3.4 pass blocking grade and 5 QB pressures. 4. Matt Cassel had an outstanding grade as expected. He also was credited with two sacks. 5. Despite what people are saying, Tyson, Gregg and Dorsey had very average games. 6. Tamba Hali was a freaking BEAST with a +7.4, 7 QB pressures, 2 sacks and 2 hits. AND three stops. That is unheard of. 7. Derrick Johnson and Jovan Belcher continued their excellent play. They combined for nine stops (6 to DJ) and 13 tackles overall. 8. Justin Houston had a terrible game, and only rushed the passer one time. He was beaten 4 times for 66 yards. 9. Sabby Pissandshitty was only on the field for 13 snaps. 10. Donald Washington was on the field for 66 snaps and got roasted, giving up 5 catches for 60 yards in 5 targets. 11. Brandon Flowers did not give up a catch.
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Gonzo Stuff & Things Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Yukon Casino cash: $10126924	I cannot ***ing believe how well Hali has adjusted to LB. I always thought he was to slow and not built for it. (Until last year) That guy is unbreakable and better than anyone on the field at any given time. Posted via Mobile Device*
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Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $2037558	We all knew Houston would struggle in pass coverage it's cool I still think he's going to be a dominate pass rusher. I don't understand why they aren't letting him go more.
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FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	Yeah ... Waters was probably one of the media's "sources close to the locker room". Now he's close to somebody else's locker room while we give a young guy his position. FAX
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