Peter King: You have to go back to 1997 to find a draft like this one

[jAZ]

Originally Posted by SNR

Drafting a non-QB just to avoid the risk for 30 years is also a really terrible strategy

You don't make up for past failures by over-reacting today.

I have no idea if Geno Smith is the right QB or not. And neither do the 32 GM's out there today. And neither do the draft talking heads here or in the media.

If the facts of the draft say that no QB is graded in the top 15 players, and you have the option to make a trade for an NFL-experienced QB that you think is worth the pick you'll be trading, you DON'T cave to pressure from fans who are essentially disappointed that this draft class doesn't match our position of need and they long to be like the cool kids who always seem to get the big splash on draft day.

If Reid and Dorsey think that Alex Smith for a #33 or #65 is a better bet for their plans than Geno Smith for the #1, then take Alex Smith. And the Cassel experience should have zero impact on that decision. And fans desire for selecting a #1 overall QB should have none.

Nothing.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by jAZ

If Reid and Dorsey think that Alex Smith for a #33 or #65 is a better bet for their plans than Geno Smith for the #1, then take Alex Smith. And the Cassel experience should have zero impact on that decision. And fans desire for selecting a #1 overall QB should have none.

Nothing.

Wrong again. The Cassel experience should ABSOLUTELY have impact on this situation.

You find the BEST QB AVAILABLE in whatever way you can. Trade, free agency, or draft. And you do what it takes to get that QB.

The only reason why you would take Alex Smith over Geno is not because you can get a better price, but ONLY IF he's a better QB than Geno is. And it's apparent from the lack of offers that teams don't believe he IS worth the trade at all, meaning he's probably not the best QB we can get in this offseason.

In 2009 we took the best QB value. It got us a subpar player. We'll be doing the same thing again... compromising value on the QUARTERBACK, THE MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL POSITIONS X100 on the freakin field.

[jAZ]

Originally Posted by SNR

Wrong again. The Cassel experience should ABSOLUTELY have impact on this situation.

You find the BEST QB AVAILABLE in whatever way you can. Trade, free agency, or draft. And you do what it takes to get that QB.

The only reason why you would take Alex Smith over Geno is not because you can get a better price, but ONLY IF he's a better QB than Geno is. And it's apparent from the lack of offers that teams don't believe he IS worth the trade at all, meaning he's probably not the best QB we can get in this offseason.

In 2009 we took the best QB value. It got us a subpar player. We'll be doing the same thing again... compromising value on the QUARTERBACK, THE MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL POSITIONS X100 on the freakin field.

You speak as if the outcomes are a known fact. They aren't. Not remotely. In fact, you know A LOT more about Alex Smith than Geno Smith. And you knew A LOT more about Matt Cassel than Mark Sanchez.

My view is that you trust the professionals, always. The process they use is far more substantive and informed than the process almost any fan uses.

Talk about it all you want, but the moment the fan starts taking their opinions so seriously that they feel their evaluation process is better than the pros, is the moment they should take a break from things for a while.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by jAZ

You speak as if the outcomes are a known fact. They aren't. Not remotely. In fact, you know A LOT more about Alex Smith than Geno Smith. And you knew A LOT more about Matt Cassel than Mark Sanchez.

My view is that you trust the professionals, always. The process they use is far more substantive and informed than the process almost any fan uses.

Talk about it all you want, but the moment the fan starts taking their opinions so seriously that they feel their evaluation process is better than the pros, is the moment they should take a break from things for a while.

I AM trusting the professionals. The reports are out there that nobody wants or gives a shit about Alex Smith.

I know quite a bit about Geno Smith. I know he's got a chance of being a really really good QB in this league. I and other professionals in the business know that it's an infinitesimally small chance that Alex Smith becomes as good as Geno could possibly be.

That's why teams will spend a first round pick on Geno (hopefully it's the Chiefs who do it). They WON'T be trading a first round pick to the 49ers for Alex Smith. And I doubt a team does it for a 2nd or a 3rd, either.

[ndws]

Originally Posted by SNR

I AM trusting the professionals. The reports are out there that nobody wants or gives a shit about Alex Smith.

I know quite a bit about Geno Smith. I know he's got a chance of being a really really good QB in this league. I and other professionals in the business know that it's an infinitesimally small chance that Alex Smith becomes as good as Geno could possibly be.

That's why teams will spend a first round pick on Geno (hopefully it's the Chiefs who do it). They WON'T be trading a first round pick to the 49ers for Alex Smith. And I doubt a team does it for a 2nd or a 3rd, either.

Not being a dick, simply not knowing anybody here...but you work in some capacity in professional football?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by ndws

Not being a dick, simply not knowing anybody here...but you work in some capacity in professional football?

Okay, take out the "other" in the sentence. Typo.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by jAZ

My view is that you trust the professionals, always. The process they use is far more substantive and informed than the process almost any fan uses.

The process they use is entirely self-serving and born out of a need to subsist in their job more than anything else.

The "process" for fans and GMs alike, is entirely subjective.

[jAZ]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The process they use is entirely self-serving and born out of a need to subsist in their job more than anything else.

The "process" for fans and GMs alike, is entirely subjective.

I would expect more from you. See my last post for why.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by jAZ

I would expect more from you. See my last post for why.

I'll bet I've watched more snaps of Geno and Tyler Wilson than Reid has.

I really don't care what you expect from me.

[jAZ]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'll bet I've watched more snaps of Geno and Tyler Wilson than Reid has.

I really don't care what you expect from me.

Maybe, but I'm certain that you haven't ever built an NFL offense, or coached an NFL QB. And I'm all but sure that none of those snaps were NFL scouting film with all of the moving parts visible.

So what you watch doesn't have any context.

That you would not appreciate that without having it pointed out... is surprising, honestly. I don't typically think of you as being among the group of fans who take themselves overly seriously.

But as you rightly point out, you don't (and probably shouldn't) care much for what I say. The only thing I know is that I don't know.