Does Alex Smith deserve a extension after this season?

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Hell yes you extend him.

But how long and how much are what make it either brilliant or insanely stupid.

Of course, if Alex Smith is willing to sign a team friendly deal that makes him releasable in a couple of years. Most players wouldn't do that.

So far Alex Smith has exceeded my expectation but i still say wait.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by ComoLaz

Of course, if Alex Smith is willing to sign a team friendly deal that makes him releasable in a couple of years. Most players wouldn't do that.

So far Alex Smith has exceeded my expectation but i still say wait.

If he comes back next season and does the same thing? 200 yards with 1-2 TD and no interceptions?

Then what happens?

If we extend him early, the odds of having a salary that could reasonably be carried for a backup go up.

That's the sweet spot - enough money to keep him around, but low enough to where it becomes cost-prohibitive to keep him as a backup to our first round QB.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by ComoLaz

Of course, if Alex Smith is willing to sign a team friendly deal that makes him releasable in a couple of years. Most players wouldn't do that.

So far Alex Smith has exceeded my expectation but i still say wait.

Alex Smith has proven time and again he is team first.

[cdcox]

Alex Smith still can't convert 1st and 10 on the opponents 19 and against a weak defense at home into a game tying score. He only give you a competitive advantage if he allows you to have more talent in other positions.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by cdcox

Alex Smith still can't convert 1st and 10 on the opponents 19 and against a weak defense at home into a game tying score. He only give you a competitive advantage if he allows you to have more talent in other positions.

The WCO is a complex system and the redzone is about the last thing that normal clicks. Despite was idiots around here say, it's about more than just the QB.

The offense has shown improvement corresponding with the improvement of our Oline. The redzone depends even more on the TE and ours are weak. Our offense is pretty dam good when our WRs catch the ball and our Oline doesn't commit penalties. Both are not on the QB.

People used to say Alex Smith couldn't throw it deep as well and now he is doing it just fine.

[FRCDFED]

Originally Posted by ComoLaz

People used to say Alex Smith couldn't throw it deep as well and now he is doing it just fine.

Actually, he throws a very tight intermediate to deep ball. The WCO relies a lot on the TE in the red zone. That has been an area with injuries for us this season. Plus our WR's must be in shock that balls are actually on target and they are expected to catch them.

Kudo's to DJ, duncan, BossChief, and the others that made this a great thread!

I'm going to have to side with BossChief and DJ on this topic. Alex's history has shown that he will improve in season two. Moreso if we can get him more weapons on offense such as a WR that gets separation and can keep a solid TE on the field.

Alex should be extended this offseason. Someone else already said it, Alex just wants to feel wanted somewhere and I believe a new contract will increase his dedication (not that he needs to) to work towards elite QB play. He will not break the bank. He is extremely intelligent from what I have read about him and just needs the right pieces in place so that he can get them the ball to make plays.

Year two should be exciting! This offseason will be about getting a playmaker or two on offense and depth at all positions. I look for us to grab a FS through FA if one is available unless Commings steps up.

[bevischief]

Originally Posted by FRCDFED

Actually, he throws a very tight intermediate to deep ball. The WCO relies a lot on the TE in the red zone. That has been an area with injuries for us this season. Plus our WR's must be in shock that balls are actually on target and they are expected to catch them.

Kudo's to DJ, duncan, BossChief, and the others that made this a great thread!

I'm going to have to side with BossChief and DJ on this topic. Alex's history has shown that he will improve in season two. Moreso if we can get him more weapons on offense such as a WR that gets separation and can keep a solid TE on the field.

Alex should be extended this offseason. Someone else already said it, Alex just wants to feel wanted somewhere and I believe a new contract will increase his dedication (not that he needs to) to work towards elite QB play. He will not break the bank. He is extremely intelligent from what I have read about him and just needs the right pieces in place so that he can get them the ball to make plays.

Year two should be exciting! This offseason will be about getting a playmaker or two on offense and depth at all positions. I look for us to grab a FS through FA if one is available unless Commings steps up.

Yep I agree.

[whoman69]

He still has two years left on his deal. I wouldn't touch it until next year unless we need cap relief.

[DJ's left nut]

That's exactly why you don't go overboard to sign him. If he's looking for a Flacco contract, you walk. The Chiefs shouldn't move heaven and Earth for him, they just need to offer him a fair deal for an average to slightly above average QB. The deal needs to be one that allows them to keep the parts that are necessary for him to win the 10-12 games/season he's capable of winning with a solid defense.

If you can stick with a game manager salary for him, I believe you do get a competitive advantage. Obviously it would be better to snag someone like Wilson in the 3rd and get a Pro Bowl QB for free for a few years, but let's wait until we have one of those first. As much as we think we see, the coaches see more. If we got a guy like Wilson, I'm completely confident that Reid would see that on the practice field and wouldn't hesitate to give the kid the keys (he's done it before).

And no, we didn't manage to tie that game, but in the alternative you can say that he took a team against a $25 million quarterback that just threw 5 touchdowns and had them 3 yards away from overtime. That's pretty damn impressive in its own right, is it not?

I just think it's both unfair and unreasonable to say "if he's not Manning, don't extend him." He's not Manning - he'll never be Manning. But if your choice is Alex Smith at $10-$12 million/season or Eli Manning, Joe Flacco or Tony Romo at twice that, you're going to be a better football team on the aggregate with Alex Smith. In that sense, he absolutely provides a competitive advantage.

[TRR]

Yes. But don't rush.

Just one Sunday of watching QB's around the league will tell you all you need to know about how hard it is to find consistent play from your QB. QB play has been atrocious for a lot of NFL teams this year and we all know it is the most important position on the field. Smith has played with competence and consistency. He has shown flashes of more than that on more than a handful of occasions...And make no mistake, other than Charles and an inconsistent Bowe, this offense lacks fire power. Smith has done what most here said he needed to do...Make KC competitive immediately...and he has done that.

Do you sign him to crazy money? No. Do you extend him for the next five years? No. Do you push him out the door after next year with only an undrafted QB worth a shit behind him? Absolutely not.

[Molitoth]

Just because Alex has had about 5 or 6 good games out of 13 so far, doesn't mean you extend him, nope.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

Just because Alex has had about 5 or 6 good games out of 13 so far, doesn't mean you extend him, nope.

against shitty pass defenses to boot

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

Just because Alex has had about 5 or 6 good games out of 13 so far, doesn't mean you extend him, nope.

That's not why you're extending him.

You're extending him because over his last 61 NFL games he's thrown over 1100 passes and with those passes he managed a line of:

80 TDs/38 INTs
QB Rating of 87.5
Completion% of 61.5
Y/A of 6.8

And if you look at what he's done this season, he's pretty damn close to that across the board. His TD/INT is a little higher, YPG is a little higher, completion% and Y/A a little lower and QB rating is almost exactly the same. None of those figures are amazing, but they're figures a bunch of teams in this league would love to get from their QB. They're absolutely figures you can win a championship with, especially if he comes cheap enough to extend and surround him with elite supplemental talent we already have.

In other words, Alex Smith is exactly who he appears to be. The guy we have this year is his baseline. Smith's shown a history of improving the longer he's in a system, so there's reason to believe he'll be even a little bit better next season.

But that's not even your gamble. Your gamble is that he'll be no worse as he plays through his prime QB years than he has been over his last 60+ NFL games and 1000+ NFL attempts. If he's no worse than that, he's absolutely worth a reasonable contract extension. Waiting another year is presumably done out of caution; the worry that he'll suddenly crater. I don't see the argument - he's established his baseline.

The risk/reward favors extending him before his walk year, IMO. There's a far greater likelihood of him improving on this year's performance than there is a likelihood of him falling below the baseline he's set over the past 5 seasons as an NFL starting quarterback.

[philfree]

Maybe but the seasons not over. His play in the next four games could make a difference in weather or not we should sign him long term. I'm pulling for him though.

[Halfcan]

So much Alex love in this thread-lol