Movies and TV CGI in a nutshell

irishjayhawk · 07-14-2008, 05:13 PM

Thoughts?

I would also put Pirates in that category even though it's not a superhero movie.

**Rausch** · 07-14-2008, 05:29 PM

I wouldn't put "Superhero Movies."

I'd add "Current Filmmaking."

Hammock Parties · 07-14-2008, 05:30 PM

Not true. Example - Pixar.

irishjayhawk · 07-14-2008, 05:31 PM

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Not true. Example - Pixar.

Pixar isn't CGI, at least in the modern sense of the word. CGI is usually referred to as a live action with computer sequences. Which is different than a full length ANIMATION film.

It could be splitting hairs, but the difference - at least to me - is huge.

**Donger** · 07-14-2008, 05:33 PM

I'm beginning to actively dislike CGI. If you can't film a "stunt" with live actors, perhaps it shouldn't be filmed in the first place.

Hammock Parties · 07-14-2008, 05:36 PM

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I'm beginning to actively dislike CGI. If you can't film a "stunt" with live actors, perhaps it shouldn't be filmed in the first place.

No, that's not true. There's some shit in Wanted that was absolutely awesome, and only could have been done with CGI. It was better for it.

CGI is a great tool. The problem is when directors go overboard with it and drench the film in it.

It should be used sparingly, like old special effects were. Digital matte paintings are awesome, as is bullet time. Wacky Indiana Jones trees are not.

**Donger** · 07-14-2008, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

No, that's not true. There's some shit in Wanted that was absolutely awesome, and only could have been done with CGI. It was better for it.

CGI is a great tool. The problem is when directors go overboard with it and drench the film in it.

It should be used sparingly, like old special effects were. Digital matte paintings are awesome, as is bullet time. Wacky Indiana Jones trees are not.

Shut the hell up.

irishjayhawk · 07-14-2008, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

No, that's not true. There's some shit in Wanted that was absolutely awesome, and only could have been done with CGI. It was better for it.

CGI is a great tool. The problem is when directors go overboard with it and drench the film in it.

It should be used sparingly, like old special effects were. Digital matte paintings are awesome, as is bullet time. Wacky Indiana Jones trees are not.

What shots, specifically?

Hammock Parties · 07-14-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by irishjayhawk

What shots, specifically?

When they assassinated the dude in the car? AMAZING.

Also, the part where he uses that body as a human shield while firing through his head. That was epic.

Hammock Parties · 07-14-2008, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Shut the hell up.

How very uncouth.

irishjayhawk · 07-14-2008, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

When they assassinated the dude in the car? AMAZING.

Also, the part where he uses that body as a human shield while firing through his head. That was epic.

I'd grant you those along with the bullet cgi. Matrix like CGI I can stand.

However, the stunts they had in the film, especially the car flipping and picking him up or flying overhead of a limo, are the type of CGI that is becoming more and more prevalent. And it's replacing plot and believability.

**Rausch** · 07-14-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by irishjayhawk

I'd grant you those along with the bullet cgi. Matrix like CGI I can stand.

However, the stunts they had in the film, especially the car flipping and picking him up or flying overhead of a limo, are the type of CGI that is becoming more and more prevalent. And it's replacing plot and believability.

The more it's done the more it's done poorly.

A lot of the stuff out now looks like it's from a Saturday afternoon SciFi channel flick...

Hammock Parties · 07-14-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by irishjayhawk

I'd grant you those along with the bullet cgi. Matrix like CGI I can stand.

However, the stunts they had in the film, especially the car flipping and picking him up or flying overhead of a limo, are the type of CGI that is becoming more and more prevalent. And it's replacing plot and believability.

Well, I'd argue it's about the use of CGI within the context of the universe the film is set in.

I had no problem with the CGI in Wanted. I had big problems with the CGI in Indiana Jones.

irishjayhawk · 07-14-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

Well, I'd argue it's about the use of CGI within the context of the universe the film is set in.

I had no problem with the CGI in Wanted. I had big problems with the CGI in Indiana Jones.

Why?

Wanted didn't set itself up to be different than our reality. Instead, it merely told us there were assassins (who knew they were stunt drivers too) and they've been in humanity for 1000 years.

What is different about the context of that universe? Contrasting, the Matrix told us everything. It's all computer code and we can manipulate it. Therefore the CGI was a tool in the universe.

Hammock Parties · 07-14-2008, 06:42 PM

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Why?

Wanted didn't set itself up to be different than our reality.

Yeah, it did. In the Wanted reality there are people who can curve bullets and "see" in bullet time.

Not to mention fly out windows.

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