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2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread
2012 Slogan: Our Time
A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year (from Great Expectations) An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division (from alnorth) With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore. We do not have starting pitching. Oh yeah, we've also got this: ![]() Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us. Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here. What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that: Quote:
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But this is it, Dayton, if this doesn't work, Goooodbye. |
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well, this is the trade that hurts. hurts really bad, honestly. ****. now, off to bed. work comes in the morning regardless of what the royals do to **** me.
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well, this is the trade that hurts. hurts really bad, honestly. ****. now, off to bed. work comes in the morning regardless of what the royals do to **** me.
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Shields Duffy Guthrie Lamb (might be early) Paulino/Zimmer/Ventura/Mendoza If Hosmer and Moose bounce back, Sal and Gordon produce (with Butler contributing about 30 HR's) and if our pen continues it's dominance, we could be a competitive force. /Icandreamright? |
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And yet, here we are making a trade with a team that DOES win now. And they were all too glad to do this deal. I guess that kinda disproves the idea that small markets have to do trades like this. Since - you know - Tampa just did the opposite. |
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Myers acquisition a coup for Rays: http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb...pa-bay-rays-mlb
The Kansas City Royals' main goal this offseason had to be to make the club into a potential 85-win team, at a minimum. In a desperately weak AL Central, an 85 win baseline puts you within variance of contention -- a little luck, a breakout or two, some ill fortune in Detroit or Chicago -- and that's about the best that GM Dayton Moore could reasonably have accomplished in one winter. The best path to do that was to try to max out the lineup, adding top prospect Wil Myers in right field in place of Jeff Francoeur and all the outs he makes, letting new hitting coach Jack Maloof try to fix Eric Hosmer by getting his hands down, and adding starting pitching wherever possible. Instead, the Royals traded Myers for pitching help in a deal with the Tampa Bay Rays featuring James Shields that might make them slightly better in the short term but at a severe long-term cost -- and it's quite possible they don't even sniff 80 wins with the pitching they just acquired, unless there's another substantial deal coming. For Tampa Bay, this is a heist, a potential franchise-making deal that should allow the Rays to continue their run of contention on a dime for several more years as they acquire a centerpiece bat in Myers, a potential mid-rotation starter in Jake Odorizzi, and two other prospects, none of whom has more than a few days of major-league service -- meaning the Rays get six years of club control of each of them. keithlaw @keithlaw One final thought before I sign off: Talked to a bunch of scouts/FO folks tonight. Every last one of them said the Rays came out way ahead. |
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So what does the 25-man look like now? My guess:
OFs: Gordon, Cain, Francoeur, Dyson, Lough IFs: Moustakas, Escobar, Getz, Hosmer, Butler, Abreu or Falu Cs: Sal Perez, Manny Pina SPs: James Shields, Guthrie, Santana, Davis, Chen RP: Holland, Herrera, Crow, Collins, Coleman, Donnie Joseph, Mendoza Lineup: Gordon Escobar Hosmer Butler Perez Moustakas Francoeur Cain Getz That's probably a better team than in 2012. How much better? Well, what do you get out of the starters? There certainly is a much higher ceiling than for quite a while. And does the offense get recoveries from Moustakas and Hosmer without a major drop-off from anyone else?
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Second-biggest. Since Billy Beane turned DOWN that deal.
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I'd actually like to see Cain in the 2-spot, long-term. I know he can't BUNT like Escobar, but I like 2-hitters who can drive the ball a little bit.
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