Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on.

[Hammock Parties]

It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Did Geno throw anymore picks last night while we are asleep...?

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Did Geno throw anymore picks last night while we are asleep...?

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Geno Smith is a rookie quarterback with plenty of time to improve his game. Why do people act like he has to be so great out of the box & he isn't nor should he be expected to be NFL ready as Andrew Luck.

I am talking about ever. I don't think he will EVER be a good QB. He ended up not being that good in college by the end of the season. He got outplayed by Nassib in the bowl game.

Early in the season last year I was all on the Geno bandwagon, started watching him play when I could etc...

He progressively went down hill, played absolutely terrible at the end of the season, shit his pants in the bowl game, and had an underwhelming combine and pro day.

I was thoroughly unimpressed with him before it was draft time. Every time he had a chance to prove himself elite he did the opposite. I don't understand why anyone thinks he is going to be a good NFL QB except people that wont let go of the early hype.

[BourbonMan]

Sanchez chosen over Geno

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/n...jaguars-081513

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB)

Geno is a talented young QB with a good work ethic who had a lot of college production.

I will take 10 of those for the next 100 years in KC before I ever take another retread game manager.

The Chiefs, in an very Un-Chief maneuver, managed to get both this year.

That's why I don't understand the Smith angst. We did exactly what so many of you are screaming we should've done - went out and snagged a high-value, high-potential rookie QB.

The problem has become that the Chiefs didn't take the one many of us preferred and in the end, that's just stupid. Sure, I'd have loved to see them get Smith; he was my favorite QB in the class. But Bray actually does have more long-term upside than Smith and I said that before the draft.

This is just shouting at the dark by many of you. The Chiefs got the best available option for a team that's a lot older than many of you want to accept (Hali, DJ and Charles are looking at 3 more high-end years at most, Flowers and Bowe won't be too far behind that). This isn't a team that can give sit back while a rookie QB develops for another 2 years, especially not with the anger that had built up in the fanbase.

They did a smart thing and got a QB that can get the franchise back on the road to respectability. They then did an even smarter thing and snagged a long-term developmental guy. Did they fall ass-backwards into Bray? Yeah, probably, but in the end they still got him.

This "I'd rather have a rookie over a retread" argument is just stupid - we got both and placed the latter in a very good position to succeed.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The Chiefs, in an very Un-Chief maneuver, managed to get both this year.

That's why I don't understand the Smith angst. We did exactly what so many of you are screaming we should've done - went out and snagged a high-value, high-potential rookie QB.

The problem has become that the Chiefs didn't take the one many of us preferred and in the end, that's just stupid. Sure, I'd have loved to see them get Smith; he was my favorite QB in the class. But Bray actually does have more long-term upside than Smith and I said that before the draft.

This is just shouting at the dark by many of you. The Chiefs got the best available option for a team that's a lot older than many of you want to accept (Hali, DJ and Charles are looking at 3 more high-end years at most, Flowers and Bowe won't be too far behind that). This isn't a team that can give sit back while a rookie QB develops for another 2 years, especially not with the anger that had built up in the fanbase.

They did a smart thing and got a QB that can get the franchise back on the road to respectability. They then did an even smarter thing and snagged a long-term developmental guy. Did they fall ass-backwards into Bray? Yeah, probably, but in the end they still got him.

This "I'd rather have a rookie over a retread" argument is just stupid - we got both and placed the latter in a very good position to succeed.

Fate/Ass over-teakettle with Bray.

But I'll take it.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The Chiefs, in an very Un-Chief maneuver, managed to get both this year.

That's why I don't understand the Smith angst. We did exactly what so many of you are screaming we should've done - went out and snagged a high-value, high-potential rookie QB.

The problem has become that the Chiefs didn't take the one many of us preferred and in the end, that's just stupid. Sure, I'd have loved to see them get Smith; he was my favorite QB in the class. But Bray actually does have more long-term upside than Smith and I said that before the draft.

This is just shouting at the dark by many of you. The Chiefs got the best available option for a team that's a lot older than many of you want to accept (Hali, DJ and Charles are looking at 3 more high-end years at most, Flowers and Bowe won't be too far behind that). This isn't a team that can give sit back while a rookie QB develops for another 2 years, especially not with the anger that had built up in the fanbase.

They did a smart thing and got a QB that can get the franchise back on the road to respectability. They then did an even smarter thing and snagged a long-term developmental guy. Did they fall ass-backwards into Bray? Yeah, probably, but in the end they still got him.

This "I'd rather have a rookie over a retread" argument is just stupid - we got both and placed the latter in a very good position to succeed.

We'll see how it works out. I'm not holding my breath that Bray ever amounts to anything more than any other Chiefs drafted QB in the last 30 years. I'll also wait to see what kind of extension Alex Smith gets.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Fate/Ass over-teakettle with Bray.

But I'll take it.

Sure doesn't sound like it.

It sounds like you're going to keep bitching about Alex Smith instead.

At this point I'm beyond caring about how we got an incredibly talented young QB on this roster - the bottom line is that we got him here.

So I'm going to enjoy the next couple of years with a QB that can go out there and give us 13-14 good football games/season with the knowledge that Bray's going all Aaron Rodgers on us behind him and in 2015 should be able to kick some ass and take some names for us at the ripe old age of twenty-three.

Patience, children. This team sucked something awful last year and has sucked something awful for most of the last 15 years. It's going to be a good football team in 2013 (better than it would've been with Geno under center) and it may well be ready to be a damn good football in a couple of seasons.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by jd1020

We'll see how it works out. I'm not holding my breath that Bray ever amounts to anything more than any other Chiefs drafted QB in the last 30 years. I'll also wait to see what kind of extension Alex Smith gets.

His odds of being a true franchise QB are no worse than Geno's, IMO. I wouldn't be holding my breath on him either, were I you.

The difference in Bray/Geno is little more than their respective floors. If Geno doesn't develop, I think you'll have a below average starter for your troubles; someone like Weeden springs to mind. Whereas if Bray doesn't develop he's simply out of the league.

Well who gives a shit? Who cares if Geno has a better chance to turn into the leagues next Alex Smith than Tyler Bray? Most of you folks are shouting that that's not good enough, so why do we give a damn?

If it's nothing but ceiling, then the Chiefs did this absolutely right. They got themselves a guy that's presently better than Geno by a fairly significant amount in Smith and they got a guy in Bray that has every bit the long-term upside of Geno.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Sure doesn't sound like it.

It sounds like you're going to keep bitching about Alex Smith instead.

At this point I'm beyond caring about how we got an incredibly talented young QB on this roster - the bottom line is that we got him here.

So I'm going to enjoy the next couple of years with a QB that can go out there and give us 13-14 good football games/season with the knowledge that Bray's going all Aaron Rodgers on us behind him and in 2015 should be able to kick some ass and take some names for us at the ripe old age of twenty-three.

Patience, children. This team sucked something awful last year and has sucked something awful for most of the last 15 years. It's going to be a good football team in 2013 (better than it would've been with Geno under center) and it may well be ready to be a damn good football in a couple of seasons.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by jd1020

We'll see how it works out. I'm not holding my breath that Bray ever amounts to anything more than any other Chiefs drafted QB in the last 30 years. I'll also wait to see what kind of extension Alex Smith gets.

This.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by BourbonMan

Sanchez chosen over Geno

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/n...jaguars-081513

And people wanted us to draft him 1.1-

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

And people wanted us to draft him 1.1-

The most NFL ready QB in the draft cant beat out Buttfumble.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

His odds of being a true franchise QB are no worse than Geno's, IMO. I wouldn't be holding my breath on him either, were I you.

The difference in Bray/Geno is little more than their respective floors. If Geno doesn't develop, I think you'll have a below average starter for your troubles; someone like Weeden springs to mind. Whereas if Bray doesn't develop he's simply out of the league.

Well who gives a shit? Who cares if Geno has a better chance to turn into the leagues next Alex Smith than Tyler Bray? Most of you folks are shouting that that's not good enough, so why do we give a damn?

If it's nothing but ceiling, then the Chiefs did this absolutely right. They got themselves a guy that's presently better than Geno by a fairly significant amount in Smith and they got a guy in Bray that has every bit the long-term upside of Geno.

I guess I don't see any other QB starting for the Chiefs in the foreseeable future other than Alex Smith.

Reid loves the guy, they are both from Utah, and there's no way the Chiefs traded what they did for a game manager to throw him out after next season.

I don't think this is going to be a Favre/Rodgers situation because 1) Bray isn't Rodgers and 2) Favre was wearing out his welcome with all his bullshit retirement crap. The way Reid works you are likely to see Bray become a preseason hero and be traded to some team who thinks he's legit and become the next Kolb or [insert Eagles backup here].

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I am talking about ever. I don't think he will EVER be a good QB. He ended up not being that good in college by the end of the season. He got outplayed by Nassib in the bowl game.

Early in the season last year I was all on the Geno bandwagon, started watching him play when I could etc...

He progressively went down hill, played absolutely terrible at the end of the season, shit his pants in the bowl game, and had an underwhelming combine and pro day.

I was thoroughly unimpressed with him before it was draft time. Every time he had a chance to prove himself elite he did the opposite. I don't understand why anyone thinks he is going to be a good NFL QB except people that wont let go of the early hype.

I don't know how Geno Smith is going turn out he could bust or he could do great in the league? I just think it would have been more fun to find out if he were a Chief. Also I've said I wanted draft a quarterback this year and next year with a high round pick. I think this franchise can draft a few years in a row and create competition and trade bait as well. We have neglected the QB position from the draft for so long I'd really like to see them step up and take somebody. I want them to invest in a guy early in the draft and in practice to make him better. I want the QB to get to start as a rookie quarterback and that is something we haven't seen for a long time. At least it wouldn't be a retread and have to root for another teams trash.