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Old 04-21-2008, 10:25 PM  
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If JA is traded...Gholston is our pick at 5
I can't see Jake Long dropping to us...Dorsey and Chris Long will be gone...all the other OT's are a reach with this pick...Edwards is apparantly in love with the guy...I can see it coming...
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:02 AM   #16
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Uh please no.

If a trade doesn't happen and it plays out like in the example, IMO Ellis or Ryan would be better picks as far as BPA.
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:04 AM   #17
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Being in buckeye country, I would have to agree with that, there is no way he is going to justify being a top 15 pick in the 1st round. He is way overrated. Where was he against LSU? O$U plays such a weak schedule most of thier players don't perform in the NFL at the star level like they are projected.

Chiefs, please don't waste your pick on Gholston.....
Don't tell that to kcchiefsfangolj who would take Gholston over Chris Long (and just about anyone else)


I see Gholston as a smaller, but stronger and more athletic Derrick Harvey.
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:21 AM   #18
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Pay $22M for an untested rookie DE and trade away the established player who was asking for guaranteed money in the neighborhood of 30 million. Yep, that about makes sense for the Chiefs.
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:48 AM   #19
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People are getting carried away with this.

What if Gholston is the BPA at 5?

What if they were planning on picking him regardless of what happens with JA?

People are so quick to say we're wasting a pick to "replace" Allen.....

We don't NEED to replace Allen. We need the best players we can get regardless. If it happens to be a DE, so be it.
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:55 AM   #20
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Who says Herm loves Gholston? I've read the total opposite of that, and the big knock on Gholston the past few weeks is he doesn't show up as often as you'd like on the game film. Herm's a big game film guy.
Peter King says Edwards likes Gholston.
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:57 AM   #21
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People are getting carried away with this.

What if Gholston is the BPA at 5?

What if they were planning on picking him regardless of what happens with JA?

People are so quick to say we're wasting a pick to "replace" Allen.....

We don't NEED to replace Allen. We need the best players we can get regardless. If it happens to be a DE, so be it.
They don't have a strict BPA list. They have clusters damnit.
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Old 04-22-2008, 07:59 AM   #22
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I wish I was confident that this team would take the BPA, but I have a feeling whether Jared is on this team or not, we will be drafting for need, and that is Oline.
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:00 AM   #23
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People are getting carried away with this.

What if Gholston is the BPA at 5?

What if they were planning on picking him regardless of what happens with JA?

People are so quick to say we're wasting a pick to "replace" Allen.....

We don't NEED to replace Allen. We need the best players we can get regardless. If it happens to be a DE, so be it.
Sure we don't NEED to replace Allen, but I can understand people who are pissed at getting rid of one of the best DEs in football and replacing him with an untested DE who at best will play like Allen at basically the same price.
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:00 AM   #24
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They don't have a strict BPA list. They have clusters damnit.
Clusters, BPA, I don't give a shit.

The point stands.

People just need something to bitch about, and if we draft C. Long or Gholston, it's going to be because we needed to replace Allen, not because they were the best player for the team in the "cluster" that was available.
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:01 AM   #25
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Sure we don't NEED to replace Allen, but I can understand people who are pissed at getting rid of one of the best DEs in football and replacing him with an untested DE who at best will play like Allen at basically the same price.
So what if they were planning on drafting one of them and keeping Allen?

What difference does it make?

People are just hung up on replacing Allen.
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:31 AM   #26
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Being in buckeye country, I would have to agree with that, there is no way he is going to justify being a top 15 pick in the 1st round. He is way overrated. Where was he against LSU? O$U plays such a weak schedule most of thier players don't perform in the NFL at the star level like they are projected.

Chiefs, please don't waste your pick on Gholston.....
You shut your mouth when your talking to me (Wedding Crashers). No way Gholston is overrated, some say he disappears, show me a DE that doesn't disappear sometime during the game, if they stop running at you, your tackles are going to go down, because your not going to be able to run down everybody. He pressured Flynn quite a bit in the LSU game, I will hand it to Flynn he got rid of the ball very well when he was pressured. Uh OSU players dont play well in the NFL????????? Ever heard of Mike Vrabel, Terry Glenn, Chris Carter, Eddie George, AJ Hawk, Shawn Spring, Antoine Winfield, Ahmed Plummer, Mike Doss, Jack Tatum. I mean seriously come on, you can say players from all schools have been rated high and never projected to what they "should of been" in the NFL.

Just a taste of what Gholston has done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE2y_ypR9wQ&NR=1
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:36 AM   #27
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Don't tell that to kcchiefsfangolj who would take Gholston over Chris Long (and just about anyone else)


I see Gholston as a smaller, but stronger and more athletic Derrick Harvey.

It's true I do like Gholston over C.Long. I would like to have Gholston, but if we keep JA, I will say what I have said all year, I would take Glenn Dorsey in a heartbeat. I would take Sed Ellis also if we keep JA. Chris Long isn't going to be there when we draft anyway so your point about me liking Gholston is moot.
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Old 04-22-2008, 08:55 AM   #29
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Ok, I have watched tape of Gholston, and I am left unimpressed. I do think he is a round 1 type of guy, but not at number 5 to us. If we trade JA to Minnesota, and get their pick. I would like to see us get either Dorsey or Ellis at 5 (I would like to get Chris Long but I think that he is going to be gone), and get Clady at 17. I don't think Clady is top 5 talent, but after looking more into the guy I think at 17 he could really help this team. This way we have studs on both sides of the line, and we all know if you have a great line on both sides you win ball games.
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Old 04-22-2008, 09:03 AM   #30
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Ok, I have watched tape of Gholston, and I am left unimpressed. I do think he is a round 1 type of guy, but not at number 5 to us. If we trade JA to Minnesota, and get their pick. I would like to see us get either Dorsey or Ellis at 5 (I would like to get Chris Long but I think that he is going to be gone), and get Clady at 17. I don't think Clady is top 5 talent, but after looking more into the guy I think at 17 he could really help this team. This way we have studs on both sides of the line, and we all know if you have a great line on both sides you win ball games.
Your idea of tape would be? Not another youtube only homer, eh? Not attacking you or anything at all like that, I get tired of people who say they watch tape when all they do is watch a youtube clip. I am the first to say if my opinion on someone is speculation or I have actually watched the person play and really watched them, not just listened for when their name was announced.
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